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Old 04-23-15, 09:48 AM
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While I understand Fudgy's point about moderators who don't frequent this place weighing in on infractions, they are usually acting on reports. No one pays too close attention to this place. I gave up my star because it wasn't a lot of fun, it's time consuming, and having to skirt the line between participant and overlord makes it difficult to massage people's feels. The reality of it is someone is going to pay attention to this place. If it's internal it gives people a little more latitude and protection. Racing forum mods have come and gone (waterrockets, alejandro, walter, me). I've been asked to take it on again. Don't really want to. Someone should volunteer (in a serious way), we need accept what we get, or someone who has done it prior needs to be enticed to come back.
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i hate everything and am looking for a career transition. does this moderator job pay well and how are the benefits?
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If you think about it, who else supports Doge's right to be awkward and weird? Who else shouts out that discussing merits of BB30 is squarely 41 material, or threads like "vintage tires for my old bike" has little to do with racing, training, or anything related. Who is totally comfortable with having all their private messages copied and pasted into the public board because I don't say **** in PMs that I am unwilling to defend publicly!?

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I sense an impending train wreck.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
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While I understand Fudgy's point about moderators who don't frequent this place weighing in on infractions, they are usually acting on reports. No one pays too close attention to this place. I gave up my star because it wasn't a lot of fun, it's time consuming, and having to skirt the line between participant and overlord makes it difficult to massage people's feels. The reality of it is someone is going to pay attention to this place. If it's internal it gives people a little more latitude and protection. Racing forum mods have come and gone (waterrockets, alejandro, walter, me). I've been asked to take it on again. Don't really want to. Someone should volunteer (in a serious way), we need accept what we get, or someone who has done it prior needs to be enticed to come back.
I thought the BF M.O. was to tap someone on the shoulder and ask them, not wait for volunteers ?

I moderate some stock trading boards, and it's amazing how strict the rules there are. 90% of BF posts would get deleted.
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Can I ban idiots what ask stupid questions and post dumb comments to get their post counts up?

If so...saddle up fudgy
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Old 04-23-15, 10:24 AM
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I thought the BF M.O. was to tap someone on the shoulder and ask them, not wait for volunteers ?

I moderate some stock trading boards, and it's amazing how strict the rules there are. 90% of BF posts would get deleted.
I'm not really in any sort of official capacity asking. One of those options is bound to happen though. The idea that we'll eternally be left alone isn't likely to happen.
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I volunteered a while a ago. Shrug.
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My job is alright. Been there 14 years (transferred sections once) and I just have typical gov't frustrations. For example we had a big server implementation last week. Two days prior a manager that is responsible for one application on that server panicked and now its delay a month with a committee of 30 people meeting weekly. We have made zero changes, there is just a ton of screaming about noise....
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I was reading a bit about track racing, which I've never done but would like to get into, and I came across this intro guide which I thought was well-written and interesting. But one thing that jumped out at me was:

Originally Posted by that guide
as a road racer I would expect to crash two or three times ina full season of 50 races or so. On the track, I would expect about the same.
Eh? I most definitely do not expect to crash every 20 races or so!
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I couldn't be a mod, I'd let too much slide. If you dislike a post or person, don't read it. If you ban every poster that's boring, off topic, or slightly offensive the 33 would be dead in a year. There truly are things that are offensive, I dislike the tendency posters have to bully up one guy (for example doge) but people seem to be okay with that and not the minor things people get banned for.
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Moderating is like regulating. And who's to say what's really offensive or indecent to all when it comes to speech (or text)? I think if you don't like what someone types you can scroll down from it or heck stop reading it all together. The task of moderating seems like it would be extremely difficult and time consuming. Can't we call the FCC and just have them moderate this place?
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
Eh? I most definitely do not expect to crash every 20 races or so!
On average top cyclists suffer a significant injury every other year.

Incidence and risk for traumatic and overuse injuries in top-level road cyclists. - PubMed - NCBI
Overall injury rates were 0.50 per racer/year, 2.02 per studied racer, and 0.007 per 1000 km of training and competition.

... and the injury rate is increasing
Changes in sports injuries incidence over time in world-class road cyclists. - PubMed - NCBI
contemporary professional road cyclists are exposed to double the risk of traumatic injuries than those competing in the 80s and early 90s.
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On average top cyclists suffer a significant injury every other year.

Incidence and risk for traumatic and overuse injuries in top-level road cyclists. - PubMed - NCBI
Overall injury rates were 0.50 per racer/year, 2.02 per studied racer, and 0.007 per 1000 km of training and competition.

... and the injury rate is increasing
Changes in sports injuries incidence over time in world-class road cyclists. - PubMed - NCBI
contemporary professional road cyclists are exposed to double the risk of traumatic injuries than those competing in the 80s and early 90s.
Neutral car drivers and Spanish traffic bollards probably account for half of those.
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I get to deal with this in a couple weeks.

https://www.strava.com/segments/7137870?filter=overall

Its flat here. I have nothing like this.

Its going to suck.


Im pretty sure this climb has more elevation gain than I typically see on a 40-50 mile ride.

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Originally Posted by furiousferret
My job is alright. Been there 14 years (transferred sections once) and I just have typical gov't frustrations. For example we had a big server implementation last week. Two days prior a manager that is responsible for one application on that server panicked and now its delay a month with a committee of 30 people meeting weekly. We have made zero changes, there is just a ton of screaming about noise....
You still use servers?
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You still use servers?
This is part of our 2003 elimination, so until July yes. After they'll all be on VMs.
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Originally Posted by Wylde06
I get to deal with this in a couple weeks.

https://www.strava.com/segments/7137870?filter=overall

Its flat here. I have nothing like this.

Its going to suck.


Im pretty sure this climb has more elevation gain than I typically see on a 40-50 mile ride.
Climbing, attacks aside, is basically intervals at threshold or slightly above. Don't blow trying to stick with the lead group. Pace yourself to an effort that you can sustain. Training without hills could be threshold intervals with some short bursts.
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
I couldn't be a mod, I'd let too much slide. If you dislike a post or person, don't read it. If you ban every poster that's boring, off topic, or slightly offensive the 33 would be dead in a year. There truly are things that are offensive, I dislike the tendency posters have to bully up one guy (for example doge) but people seem to be okay with that and not the minor things people get banned for.
it doesn't really work that way, popular speculation aside. People get banned for the way they treat moderators when they get a warning or infraction. It's actually kind of hard to get banned, particularly permanently. You kinda have to work at it.
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Originally Posted by misterwaterfall
Can I ban idiots what ask stupid questions and post dumb comments to get their post counts up?

If so...saddle up fudgy
We'd be a good team because you would try to over-moderate, where as I would pass out kleenex to thin-skinned post reporters. A ying-yang approach.


My resume also includes being the sole moderator for a 2500 person sub******! Who can beat that?
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
Climbing, attacks aside, is basically intervals at threshold or slightly above. Don't blow trying to stick with the lead group. Pace yourself to an effort that you can sustain. Training without hills could be threshold intervals with some short bursts.

Im thinking the over unders would be good for this kind of effort? I did 3x12 the other day, 2 minutes at ~92% 1 minute ~115%
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
We'd be a good team because you would try to over-moderate, where as I would pass out kleenex to thin-skinned post reporters. A ying-yang approach.


My resume also includes being the sole moderator for a 2500 person sub******! Who can beat that?
Is it r/fifthworldproblems?
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
I volunteered a while a ago. Shrug.
you're the kind of guy that drives people off roads. Admins can see through your ruse.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
Is it r/fifthworldproblems?
it might be r/bikeforums33/
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
We'd be a good team because you would try to over-moderate, where as I would pass out kleenex to thin-skinned post reporters. A ying-yang approach.


My resume also includes being the sole moderator for a 2500 person sub******! Who can beat that?
Done. Good cop bad cop time.

I also ran a small Vbulliten forum for a friend a few years ago so clearly we have the palmares to rock this place.
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