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Old 04-04-05, 04:21 AM
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Walking/running/cycling, compatible?

What got me thinking on this was, I did marshalling duty last w/end and couldn't race . One of the duties was setting out the course, laying witches hats etc which required some walking. I woke up with sore legs this morning (tibialis anterior). It seems I'm capable of riding lots of Ks at reasonable speeds but can't walk out of site on a dark night.
So I've resolved to get myself up to speed walking and ultimately running/jogging and I was wondering what effect this will have on my cycling/racing. It's obvious that I don't use the walking muscles for riding and so I thought that any significant development may interfere with my riding.
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I don't find much benefit in carryover from running to cycling. Running involves primarily calf and hamstring muscles while cycling uses different leg muscles. Running also involves taking a lot of pounding where your leg muscles are forced to cushion the shock. Conseqently you can't push back to back hard days often either.
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Here's a problem that most cyclists ignore: OTHER muscle groups.
They figure that if it doesn't directly relate to their cycling, they don't need 'em.

Well, the human body says otherwise. A body out of balance will sneak up on you when you least expect it. Ask any M.D.

Cross-training in other sports will not hurt your performance on the bike to any appreciable degree. More than likely, they'll only help.
And in the long run, you'll be happier.

Plus, it's a good mental diversion.

That's my two cents.
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The benefits of running as a training method for cycling are well documented. My Bro-in-Law was a good runner...2:40 +/- marathon....rarely rode. We would take him on rides and he would hammer very hard for 1-2hrs before blowing up. How many people can hammer @ 20-23 mph with no cycling...must be some cross training benefit???

Raul Alcala used hill repeats....running...as a staple of his off-season training.

Balance and variety are good...both physically and mentally
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Ok thanks for that guys, you have basically supported what I was already thinking but just wasn't sure. The most poinient realisation for me was that though I can ride and race on a bike I'm breathless running (read jogging) 100m (yards)??? I'm not planning on beating the pavement for hours on end and risking knee problems but I will include four brisk 5k walks/week with jogging intervals.
Thanks again for the help.
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Only if you are running to the bike store and walking out with a sweet new bike.
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Originally Posted by EventServices
Here's a problem that most cyclists ignore: OTHER muscle groups.
They figure that if it doesn't directly relate to their cycling, they don't need 'em.

Well, the human body says otherwise. A body out of balance will sneak up on you when you least expect it. Ask any M.D.

Cross-training in other sports will not hurt your performance on the bike to any appreciable degree. More than likely, they'll only help.
And in the long run, you'll be happier.

Plus, it's a good mental diversion.

That's my two cents.
I think that cross training thing is a matter of opinion. My Uncle, a personal trainer, has told me repeatedly that for endurance atheltes (in this case cyclists), cross training in other endurance sports (in this case running) is actually counter productive. Training those "non-used" muscle groups in cycling does nothing for you, and can in fact be harmful or at least detrimental to the groups you do use.

I'd ask you this. When was the last time you saw Lance, Jan or anyone else cross train in the off season by running or performing any other endurance sports not related to cycling? Lance does cyclocross and MTB, but no one is out there pounding the pavement or doing any other serious endurance activites to train. It doesn't help your cycling, and if you're a fined tuned cyclist, it may in fact hurt you.
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Thanks for the second opinion Jaco. No I'm not a 'fine tunes athlete' just an old bloke trying to make the best of the latter years. I love bike racing and I want to do the best I can but I'm not prepping for the tour, not yet anyway .
Actually I rode today and my sore leg muscles actually hurt while climbing so I guess I do use them but not as much as I thought and maybe because they're not fit enough to be useful.
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Originally Posted by jkoman
The benefits of running as a training method for cycling are well documented. My Bro-in-Law was a good runner...2:40 +/- marathon....rarely rode. We would take him on rides and he would hammer very hard for 1-2hrs before blowing up. How many people can hammer @ 20-23 mph with no cycling...must be some cross training benefit???

Raul Alcala used hill repeats....running...as a staple of his off-season training.

Balance and variety are good...both physically and mentally
What documented benefits? Documented means a study that shows the results.
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