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Old 07-30-18, 11:57 AM
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I liked the tour this year although I thought there was too much climbing and not enough ITT. Although the three best time trialists were on the podium.

Excluding the sprint stages, it seemed to lack any explosiveness on the climbs. Maybe this is an indication of less or zero doping. The teams seemed to play more defense especially Sky. Movi Star tried to make some things happen but it seemed weak.
Movistar didn't really try anything until they were so far down on the GC as to be almost non competitive. Valverde made one attempt early in the tour, but that was about it.

Maybe if Landa, Quintana or Valverde worked together in the earlier stages, they could have put the hammer down on Sky and forced a better competition later. But those three guys were mostly operating solo, with Movistar's plan to being to support whomever was doing best. Problem with that is not one of them did well enough early to really stand out as a threat.
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Old 07-30-18, 12:43 PM
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Movistar didn't really try anything until they were so far down on the GC as to be almost non competitive. Valverde made one attempt early in the tour, but that was about it.

Maybe if Landa, Quintana or Valverde worked together in the earlier stages, they could have put the hammer down on Sky and forced a better competition later. But those three guys were mostly operating solo, with Movistar's plan to being to support whomever was doing best. Problem with that is not one of them did well enough early to really stand out as a threat.
I agree. I like Valverde a lot and he would get in a break and we were all waiting for Quintana to press the action in the Alpes and he did not.
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Old 07-30-18, 02:21 PM
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With the caveat that I'm a Froome fan, I don't see it as greedy. I see it as pushing yourself to the limit and seeing what your made of. Everyone was complaining after Lance set up the one race a year matters cadence and Froome has blown that wide open by taking chances with his "legacy."
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I liked the tour this year although I thought there was too much climbing and not enough ITT. Although the three best time trialists were on the podium.

Excluding the sprint stages, it seemed to lack any explosiveness on the climbs. Maybe this is an indication of less or zero doping. The teams seemed to play more defense especially Sky. Movi Star tried to make some things happen but it seemed weak.

IMO, Dumoulin and Roglic need to up their equipment game on the time trials. Dumoulin was lucky that Froome was playing with his radio and seemed to have some other issues as he squirmed in his saddle and reached around his back with one arm. Each minor position change cost him a few thousands of a second. Dumoulin should have trounced Froome.

What was with Roglic's TT helmet? No glasses or visor? I find it hard to believe that is the fastest setup. I think both guys need better equipment sponsors and testing and then take the results and do a lot of strength and adaptation.

Also, Roglic was very lucky in stage 19 with the motor staying too close and providing Roglic with less wind resistance. I ride behind the motor a lot at the track and even with the motor several bike lengths ahead, it make it easier to faster with less power. Froome and Dumoulin were both trying to catch Roglic by pedaling hard and could not on the downhill. Froome was pedaling by sitting on the top tube. I think Roglic reduced his time due to the motor.

Alaphillipe is the real deal in the mountains both climbing and descending. He has fabulous, power skills and talent. Plus he is a bit of a showman which should make it more interesting for fans and liked by sponsors.
I don't know about TT equipment, but @Hermes , Dumoulin and Roglic are gold and silver in the discipline, so they must have something figured out.

I was disappointed Roglic couldn't hold the podium in the final TT, his win the day prior was to me the most exciting moment of the TdF. He attacked over the aubisque and moto or no moto, he straight up owned everyone else on the descent.

Alaphillipe is an exciting rider, but I don't see him as a GT contender, he is great for climbing with the break but hasn't shown the ability to climb with the group of contenders, and was 3:42 off the pace in saturdays TT (one cherrypicked sample and not knowing if he went full tilt or not but still, that's a lot of time)
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Old 07-31-18, 10:31 PM
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I think this is a transitional year for the Tour. Froome, Thomas, Nibali, Cav, and Greipel are all going to start their decline while Bernal, Alaphilippe, Groenewegen, and Gavira are all on the rise. Not going to say that's going to happen next year but the status quo has changed.



Being 1 generation removed from Wales, I'm pretty excited. The Welsh haven't had this big a win since we won the Cat 4 San Bruno Hill Climb a few years back.
When I lived with my brother we had that flag on the wall in the living room. Big day for our ancestors from hfrynghyilkjyndfgeyesugyft.
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Old 08-01-18, 11:59 AM
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There are dozens of us! Dozens.
haha, that made me laugh

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When I lived with my brother we had that flag on the wall in the living room. Big day for our ancestors from hfrynghyilkjyndfgeyesugyft.
is that near Cardiff?
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Old 08-01-18, 04:32 PM
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todays Vuelta stage

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Liking the Vurlta so far.

Cool to see Viviani back in action!
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