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Old 04-04-15, 01:21 PM
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Brinkerhoff. Otf to otb in like less than a minute. Was in a move with 3 other dudes on lap 2, got reabsorbed after a few minutes and there was a counter which the whole pack followed. Needed a few seconds to recover so softpedaled to the back...but went too far back into the cross-eyed holding on for dear life section and was pushed off the road by someone who I don't think even knew his name at that point. Kept it upright but a gap opened up + being at the back + not being fully recovered + absurd crosswinds = end of my day. Yet again snatching mediocrity out of the jaws of...something slightly less mediocre.
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Originally Posted by spectastic View Post
actually I didn't win the race. I couldn't out sprint the other guy in the venge and carbon clinchers, but I think that was more strategy than anything else. the bike cost $800 on holiday sale, and the wheels are from a different bike, which brings the cost closer to $1000, but good guess
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copperopolis m35 123s.

hard man's race. 22mi laps, we did 3. atrocious road surface for lots of it.

First lap was hard but not too hard. Attacked at the start of lap 2. They left me out there for 20 miles. Figured once I made it solo over the two main feature climbs that when I would get caught it would be a small chase. Worked. Caught, 6 of us road the last lap. Too much *****footing allowed Matthew Carino to bridge across with some in tow. Now about 10 guys together with a 5 minute hill, 4 minute descent, then 2 minutes (of smooth!!!!!) road to the finish line. Carino and one other got 5 seconds on the climb. I lead the descent, dropped some guys.

Was within 2 seconds of Carinio and the other ahead when they zip past a cat 4 rider. That guy looks behind him, in doing so veers right into us. A teammate of mine from the 4s.

Handfuls of brake, shouting, and then the c4 rider moves back to the right but too far and faceplants. I feel like ****, but keep racing. The 2 off the front re-gained all the time I'd just cut into them on the descent. Nothing to be done.

The finish was fast. A guy goes, I get his wheel, we're closing again on the leaders when they start their sprint and stay clear. I go around 2 guys and feel like I'm about to get 3rd and Ben Albrecht steals my podium step. 4th of maybe 40 guys, but a ****** fun race. Big teams out here Specialized and Mike's Bikes were shut out of the top 5, so that made everyone happy. Losing to Matt Carinio, Ben Albrecht and Piers Barry. Not my worst day.

Challenging race.

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Old 04-04-15, 06:53 PM
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Fudgy. Congrats on 4th. Tough race.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin View Post
Brinkerhoff. Otf to otb in like less than a minute. Was in a move with 3 other dudes on lap 2, got reabsorbed after a few minutes and there was a counter which the whole pack followed. Needed a few seconds to recover so softpedaled to the back...but went too far back into the cross-eyed holding on for dear life section and was pushed off the road by someone who I don't think even knew his name at that point. Kept it upright but a gap opened up + being at the back + not being fully recovered + absurd crosswinds = end of my day. Yet again snatching mediocrity out of the jaws of...something slightly less mediocre.
Thanks for the holler when I came by!!
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Copperopolis, E3, 4 laps.

Same course as Fudgy, 22 mile laps, bad pavement just because, and a 10 minute varying grade climb. I don't think the climb near the descent to the finish is quite 5 minutes, feels much shorter.

Goal: See if I can hang on this year. If I can, try to get upgrade points. 41 guys.

Lap one, the climb wasn't bad at all. One guy attacks later in the lap, no one makes any effort. After several miles I think what the hell and chase after him solo, staying in Z3. They give me a bunch of time but finally chase me down. The other guy is still out there.

Lap 2, climb is HARD. The climbers gap us and connect with solo guy, 8 off the front. I barely hang on over the top, 15 or 20 of us together. I need quite a while to recover with the stronger guys chasing the break at the front. Eventually I recover and by that point no one (only a few of us) wants to chase and the break has over a minute on us.

Lap 3 climb is much easier, guys are getting tired, unsure if they want to cause another separation with so few in the group. One guy causes some issue I don't see and another swerves across the whole road (near the beginning of the climb) and hits one guy who stays up but has to stop and unclip. Strong guy, so I wished he stayed with us, but bigger like Fudgy and we never saw him again.

Eventually we catch 3 guys dropped from the break, down to 8 of us in the main group. We all take a piss break before the last climb with the break 5' up the road. Last climb was tough for me, not too fast, just starting to fatigue. We roll around quite slowly, knowing no one is getting away.

Descent, I'm 2nd wheel. Finish the descent, I attack at just over 1k to go, keep an eye backwards and they chase so I ease up. A guy counters but not very strong. I jump on the following train but I'm 5th wheel. Come the sprint, lead guy gives out, I think I'm gonna catch others but start fading and run out of road.

9th place. No upgrade points but still pretty happy with the result considering all the CLIMBING!
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Old 04-04-15, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
Fudgy. Congrats on 4th. Tough race.
re your fb comment, throat was 90%. perpeteum bottles are a good coating for an irritated throat.
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Old 04-04-15, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hls2k6 View Post
Thanks for the holler when I came by!!
Dude did you make it?
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Old 04-04-15, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin View Post
Dude did you make it?
Yep. I had a 3 minute gap with 3 miles left.
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Old 04-05-15, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
Navy yard 45+

Two away came back to within a couple Of seconds. That chase shattered the field. No one closed it though. Thought about bridging but was heavily marked. Thought about trying a last lap flyer but was unclear Uf there was enough race left to catch, to justify the risk. In the end I won the sprint for third and feel meh. Hard man race. Fun. But racing alone with a rep is hard ****ing work.
Very tough race with that wind! good job

Naval Yard Crit 3/4

Got in the winning break, which formed on lap one and established by lap 2. Since my crash last year I am still not 100% confident in my cornering and that really hurt me. I would lose a couple wheel lengths then have to waste energy catching back on. Throw in 25-30 mph winds and a guy that is apparently a pro from his home country in South America and I unfortunately only had to pull the plug and drift back after about 5 laps in the break. Rode in the group which was only about 15 of us left with the rest of the field (50+ started) pulled and came into the last corner twice as fast as any time before that. Both guys in front of my clipped there pedals and saved it and I picked off a couple riders before the finish. Okay race and definitely got more comfortable taking corners as the race went on, but disappointed I couldn't hang on to the break. But still very early.

Naval Yard 1/2/3

Had about a 10 minute break from the last race before this one started. Guy in front of me couldn't clip in and almost fell over, so till I got going I was immediately sprinting to catch on, but was pretty far back. Got in a group of 5 guys and we shared pulls, but got pulled after 12 laps of so. That race was absolutely shattered as well. 40+ starters and about 10-15 finishers

I know what I need to work on and time to move on to the next race
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Great tactics and result Fudgy.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
Navy yard 45+

Two away came back to within a couple Of seconds. That chase shattered the field. No one closed it though. Thought about bridging but was heavily marked. Thought about trying a last lap flyer but was unclear Uf there was enough race left to catch, to justify the risk. In the end I won the sprint for third and feel meh. Hard man race. Fun. But racing alone with a rep is hard ****ing work.
Great racing. You almost had it. It is tough when you are marked. I know it well.
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Old 04-05-15, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Hls2k6 View Post
Yep. I had a 3 minute gap with 3 miles left.
Awesome, congrats.
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
Copperopolis, E3, 4 laps.


Goal: See if I can hang on this year. If I can, try to get upgrade points.

After several miles I think what the hell and chase after him solo, staying in Z3.
(unsolicited advice warning. you're strong and making the same mistakes I used to make when I moved from 4->3. You're still stronger than most around you, but the gap is much less. When you get to 2s, the gap will basically be gone. read only if you want my opinion!)

You are strong and race aggressive which is awesome, but I think you could really improve on patience and learning to make others work for you.

I was OTF solo for 55 minutes, AP was 322. My FTP is like 370 on a pure climb and probably 350 for flat merckx TT, so either way it wasn't above 90%. By the end of my alone time I couldn't wait to get caught. That effort is painful! You're riding z3 otf sure, I believe you, but that's a bunch of moderately hard effort and glycogen that everyone behind you is not expending. The guys at the front are probably working 2-3-5% harder knowing you're out front, not hurting themselves but definitely benefiting the pack.

By being out there and not catching the leader otf, you're making yourself a stepping stone and essentially the outcome is not different than if you sat on the nose of the pack and pulled them all back to the leader. You're doing way more work alone than everyone behind you, and everyone behind you is making up ground on the solo OTF.

You still came out with a good result, but if you were out of sight (presumably you were, it's pretty quick on that course to get around a bend or rise), why not settle in and make a legit effort to get to #1 and work together?
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Thanks TKP! 25 miles solo wasn't exactly "Plan A," but it sure was fun once it went down that way.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
(unsolicited advice warning. you're strong and making the same mistakes I used to make when I moved from 4->3. You're still stronger than most around you, but the gap is much less. When you get to 2s, the gap will basically be gone. read only if you want my opinion!)

You are strong and race aggressive which is awesome, but I think you could really improve on patience and learning to make others work for you.

I was OTF solo for 55 minutes, AP was 322. My FTP is like 370 on a pure climb and probably 350 for flat merckx TT, so either way it wasn't above 90%. By the end of my alone time I couldn't wait to get caught. That effort is painful! You're riding z3 otf sure, I believe you, but that's a bunch of moderately hard effort and glycogen that everyone behind you is not expending. The guys at the front are probably working 2-3-5% harder knowing you're out front, not hurting themselves but definitely benefiting the pack.

By being out there and not catching the leader otf, you're making yourself a stepping stone and essentially the outcome is not different than if you sat on the nose of the pack and pulled them all back to the leader. You're doing way more work alone than everyone behind you, and everyone behind you is making up ground on the solo OTF.

You still came out with a good result, but if you were out of sight (presumably you were, it's pretty quick on that course to get around a bend or rise), why not settle in and make a legit effort to get to #1 and work together?
100% correct. I was riding Z3 knowing I'd need energy for the main climb, but was gaining on the leader and should have put in a harder effort to catch. In hindsight if I did catch, I may have ended up in the winning break over the 2nd lap climb. The guy eventually got dropped from the break and caught, but who knows. I was thinking it was not a smart move and went anyway.
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question about the driveway series in Austin. there's only results for the top 20. how does that work for upgrade points, especially in a mixed field?
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Branchbrook 4/5 #1 - 4th

Rode in the group, made sure I stayed up towards the front and was ready to go with any moves that looked like they would stick. At one point someone took a flyer off the front and stayed out, a big hitter in cyclocross and your eventual winner (remember him). My goal was to stay with the group, not work too hard, and basically get used to doing this again. With the strong winds on the back stretch... goal achieved. Coming up the final stretch on the final lap I was hiding from the wind on what was the outside as some groups started coming up the inside on the better line. Everyone was moving around and I watched as everyone moved onto the "good" line, and there was daylight in front of me. So... I pedaled as fast as I could. If I had been thinking more about positioning and tactics, maybe I could have been on the podium.

Branchbrook 4/5 #2 - 7th

A smart racer would have recognize last race's winner and marked him in the next race. As it turned out I just saw him as a strong rider and I was with him in a few moves... including one that pulled the field apart. Everything got pulled back once or twice, and then at one point Mr. Cylcocross and your eventual winner went off the front and stayed out. I had figured that he would get pulled back in again, so I let it go. The thing about this course is that there is one wide 90 degree turn before the long home stretch. On race day that stretch was all severe cross winds. For the life of me I could not figure out why everyone was hitting their brakes before the turn. On the second to last lap I was near the front and decided to get to the front and just pedal through the turn. I did, and looked back to see a big gap. So I kept going. I extended it through the windy stretch and after than got joined by a guy who bridged up. We were 2 and 3 on the course and the field was back. Unfortunately, this caught be my surprise a bit and we didn't work together as well as we could have. We ended up getting caught near the line by an organized chase group. I probably could have sprinted, but actually heard, in my head, my voice saying, that's 5, sixth is ok, and looking for the shadow of a chaser. Compete mental collapse. Served me right to get clipped for 6th and take 7th. Worst part is that I absolutely believe I could have stuck with the leader and worked together for a 1-2 finish. Good training.
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Nice results. Why do they have two 4/5 races?
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Originally Posted by Hls2k6 View Post
Yep. I had a 3 minute gap with 3 miles left.
I missed this before. Yikes. For me that'd be the time I'd be off the back. Or the amount of time I'd lose in the 3 miles to the finish. Or something.
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Nice job IR.
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Nice results. Why do they have two 4/5 races?
No idea, struck me as strange. The best part was that they were moments apart. Finish race 1, cool down lap, ask someone to un-pin the top number, start race 2.

I am considering going back next weekend, but its a more traditional setup which would mean a 4/5 at 7am, 35+ at 9:45 and 3/4 at 10:55, so I would probably only do the first race. The idea of the Cross Bronx after 10am any day just gets me riled up.

BTW - 44 in the first field and 27 in the second field. Got my fourth and the race had more than 3 other people.

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Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
I missed this before. Yikes. For me that'd be the time I'd be off the back. Or the amount of time I'd lose in the 3 miles to the finish. Or something.
I had a really good day, obviously. I got a 15-second gap and time-trialed at a bit under threshold. Thanks to the difficult conditions the pack was facing, my gap just kept growing and growing. A friend of mind in the field said it was hilarious, because there were literally snarky comments about bring my suicide move right back. When they learned I'd opened up almost a minute on them, a sense of urgency and a hard, but ultimately brief, chase ensued. Apparently, the next check in revealed that I'd actually increased the lead substantially, and that was that.
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