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Old 04-13-05, 12:08 PM
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Race Across America

To be competitive you must finish in 9 days. Across 3000 miles. Thats like... 335 miles per day, 22 hours per day, at about 15mph. Insanity? Would you train for 20 hours a day leading up to this? Or do higher intensity/speed training sessions for less time?

I kind of feel sorry for the support crews... having to drive across the US going 15 mph the whole way... LOL I would go out of my mind.

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Old 04-13-05, 06:26 PM
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RAAM is for nutters. Those guys do some crazy sh1t to themselves.
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Old 04-13-05, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ed073
RAAM is for nutters. Those guys do some crazy sh1t to themselves.
Like sh1t themselves.
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Old 04-13-05, 09:59 PM
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I think it's an awesome race. Not for the traditional cycling fan, but I like it. I think it's one of the biggest mental and physical tests going.
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Old 04-13-05, 10:29 PM
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I think that race is for the extreme hardcore rider out there. Not for most maybe less than .01% of the cycling population. That race is 3000 miles of riding and 9 straight days of trying to fight with your mind to stay on the bike.
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
Like sh1t themselves.

and the rest. Normal human behaviour goes out the window.
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Old 04-13-05, 11:03 PM
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I'd LOVE to be able to do the RAAM. I'm just not fast enough to ride it solo ... but maybe as a team one day.

Meanwhile for those of us who love the endurance stuff but aren't at a RAAM level yet, there's always Randonneuring!! The season begins for me in a little over a week ... can't wait!!
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Old 04-16-05, 11:47 AM
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I agree with John Forester in his book Effective Cycling in which he states that it is more of a test of digestive systems rather than cycling ability, who can best convert starch into energy.

I honestly don't even see the point of RAAM at all. It just seems to be the cycling equivelent of Toughman contests and so-called "extreme fighting" events. Cycling is supposed to be fun. What's the fun in that?
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Old 04-16-05, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by smurfy
I agree with John Forester in his book Effective Cycling in which he states that it is more of a test of digestive systems rather than cycling ability, who can best convert starch into energy.

I honestly don't even see the point of RAAM at all. It just seems to be the cycling equivelent of Toughman contests and so-called "extreme fighting" events. Cycling is supposed to be fun. What's the fun in that?
for some, its fun to see just what, exactly, can and cannot be done with the human body, mind, and spirit.
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Old 04-17-05, 12:55 AM
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Anybody know who Lon Haldeman is?

I remember a guy that used to show up at an impromtu race that was (and is) held south of Denver twice per week. His bike had fenders and lights and stuff. After he smoked everyone, rumor has it that he just continued south to New Mexico for practice. He won the RAAM twice. (His name isn't Lon). Gotta have a screw loose to do this thing.

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Originally Posted by zakk
for some, its fun to see just what, exactly, can and cannot be done with the human body, mind, and spirit.
EXACTLY!!
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Old 04-17-05, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sewupnut
Anybody know who Lon Haldeman is?

I remember a guy that used to show up at an impromtu race that was (and is) held south of Denver twice per week. His bike had fenders and lights and stuff. After he smoked everyone, rumor has it that he just continued south to New Mexico for practice. He won the RAAM twice. (His name isn't Lon). Gotta have a screw loose to do this thing.

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Yes, I know him. I saw him on the PBP in 2003 when I was there. And ummm ... if his name isn't Lon, what is it?
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Old 04-17-05, 01:24 AM
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It might have been Michael Secrest, he use to do local races and was quite good.. I think he only won Raam once..
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Originally Posted by Machka
Yes, I know him. I saw him on the PBP in 2003 when I was there. And ummm ... if his name isn't Lon, what is it?
Bob Forney - a few years after Lon Haldeman. I think the years were 87, 88.
Thought about riding the RAAM once - qualifying was something like 500
miles in 24 hours. I was in awe of those guys.

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The RAAM website says tha in UMCA sanctioned 24-hour races the qualifying standard for 18 - 49 year olds is 425 miles for men (about 17.7 mph) and 400 miles for women (about 16.7 mph).
Fast, but not superhuman.
There are other ways to qualify as well.
http://www.ultracycling.com/events/raamqualifiers.html
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Our club team, Kernwheelmen, held the record for the 4man relay RAAM event until last year when Team Action Sports (local shop) beat them out. Our guys have been training to take back the record.

We have alot of ultra-endurance types here, and around, Bakersfield. One of the big RAAM qualifiers is the Furnace Creek 508 and is about a 3 hours drive. Half the guys (and virtually all of the girls) I ride with have done it on a single or tandem over the years. Most of the team members on the RAAM teams are pretty normal guys. Though I'll agree that the solo riders remind me of old navy divers that have been on the re-breather a bit too much. /grin

Smurfy, have you ever ridden distance?

I think the RAAM guys just have a different scale then us mortals.
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Originally Posted by smurfy
Cycling is supposed to be fun.
Supposed by who?

People can do whatever they want. It obviously doesn't appeal to you, but that doesn't apply to others.
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There's an article I clipped in the Chicago Tribune a few months ago. For people that wanted to qualify for the PBP, they could do this one week, intense ride schedule, where they did a ton of randonneuring in a one week period. I just could not imagine doing that, so RAAM would be even less imagination than that for me.

Good luck Machka! I'm rooting for you!

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At tonight's club meeting we had a presentation by one of the members of the ALS Lightning Team that finished first overall on faired recumbents. He said the RAAM soloists were crazy!
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Know several RAAM alumni.
Lon and his wife Susan also hold the mixed tandem record for RAAM.
Secrest did RAAM on an Assenmacher single back in the 80s.
Pete Penseyres and Lon Haldeman also did it on a tandem and hold the male/male tandem record.
This is an event definitely not for the faint of heart!
It is not only about ultra-cycling, but sleep deprevation and proper nutrition . . . most of it liquid.
In the 1980s Wayne Phillips attempted to ride RAAM self-contained and he was doing quite well until he was struck by a pickup truck. Ended up paralyzed and in a wheelchair. The next year, Wayne wheeled across Canada in his wheelchair!
Since that incident, support crews became mandatory.
Definitely takes a special kind of male or female to even attempt to do RAAM.
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Originally Posted by zonatandem
Definitely takes a special kind of male or female to even attempt to do RAAM.
Very true. BTW - did you watch the RAAM special on TV a couple months ago? There were some amazing people out there.
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Originally Posted by zonatandem
Know several RAAM alumni.
Definitely takes a special kind of male or female to even attempt to do RAAM.

Being short a few marbles probably helps.

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