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Old 03-20-15, 09:51 AM
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I have consumed alcohol while on USAC business. It was after hours. Is that a Doge violation? Don't think so.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
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there was a woman who was a regular in the 41. She got caught cutting the course at an ironman. She got caught because she was bragging about finishing, a few of the timing folks were on that forum, explored her times and found inconsistencies. Essentially she sucked at one leg (or something), and then PRed (significantly) a whole bunch of other segments. The math didn't add up, and (as I recall) the upshot was that she had skipped legs. A 60 something page flame thread ensued, and she quit the internet. I think we can (maybe) agree that's cheating. More interesting perhaps is if the flaming might have bordered at times on unethical.

This has basically nothing to do with anything, but I'm happy that with the amount of times I've hit my head I can still remember stuff and I'm kind of happy for whatever I can do to drive this thread off course and into the abyss.
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The infamous Jen. I met her at Somerville a few years ago.
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Wow. Doge's idiocy was enough to bring Fudgy and Grolby together.
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Old 03-20-15, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
This has basically nothing to do with anything, but I'm happy that with the amount of times I've hit my head I can still remember stuff and I'm kind of happy for whatever I can do to drive this thread off course and into the abyss.

This comment has redeemed the entire thread.
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Old 03-20-15, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
there was a woman who was a regular in the 41. She got caught cutting the course at an ironman. She got caught because she was bragging about finishing, a few of the timing folks were on that forum, explored her times and found inconsistencies. Essentially she sucked at one leg (or something), and then PRed (significantly) a whole bunch of other segments. The math didn't add up, and (as I recall) the upshot was that she had skipped legs. A 60 something page flame thread ensued, and she quit the internet. I think we can (maybe) agree that's cheating. More interesting perhaps is if the flaming might have bordered at times on unethical.

This has basically nothing to do with anything, but I'm happy that with the amount of times I've hit my head I can still remember stuff and I'm kind of happy for whatever I can do to drive this thread off course and into the abyss.
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The infamous Jen. I met her at Somerville a few years ago.
Is that what happened to velo gator aka iJen (I assume she's the Jen to which you are referring. I'd been wondering what happened to her a few days back.

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Old 03-20-15, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
Wow. Doge's idiocy was enough to bring Fudgy and Grolby together.
it's not idiocy, it's just ill-applied adherence to some needless concern.
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Old 03-20-15, 10:38 AM
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Wow. Doge's idiocy was enough to bring Fudgy and Grolby together.
Aww come on, we agree on stuff, except for when we don't.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
there was a woman who was a regular in the 41. She got caught cutting the course at an ironman.
I thought it was slowtwitch that pushed her off the internet. Anyway, legend has it if you go out at night and listen closely, you can still hear someone stepping over tape barriers to reverse course and run 7 minute miles.

Also, ESPN should do a documentary on cheaters at endurance events.

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Old 03-20-15, 10:41 AM
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Aww come on, we agree on stuff, except for when we don't.
we agree on everything. that's why I'm always taken aback when you get so angry!
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Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
I thought it was slowtwitch that pushed her off the internet. Anyway, legend has it if you go out at night and listen closely, you can still hear someone stepping over tape barriers to reverse course and run 7 minute miles.

Also, ESPN should do a documentary on cheaters at endurance events.

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Some forum. Maybe slow twitch. She was still a regular in the 41.
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I wonder who among us is actually her sock puppet.
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Old 03-20-15, 10:56 AM
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speaking of cheating at endurance events: Until the Snow Ends: Sam Anderson Cheats at Mountain Bike Racing
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Old 03-20-15, 10:59 AM
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I wonder who among us is actually her sock puppet.
No one. I've held the keys to the kingdom, and she never had interest in this forum anyway.
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Old 03-20-15, 11:15 AM
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what happens in the 33, stays in the 33
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Old 03-20-15, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
there was a woman who was a regular in the 41. She got caught cutting the course at an ironman. She got caught because she was bragging about finishing, a few of the timing folks were on that forum, explored her times and found inconsistencies. Essentially she sucked at one leg (or something), and then PRed (significantly) a whole bunch of other segments. The math didn't add up, and (as I recall) the upshot was that she had skipped legs. A 60 something page flame thread ensued, and she quit the internet. I think we can (maybe) agree that's cheating. More interesting perhaps is if the flaming might have bordered at times on unethical.

This has basically nothing to do with anything, but I'm happy that with the amount of times I've hit my head I can still remember stuff and I'm kind of happy for whatever I can do to drive this thread off course and into the abyss.
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The infamous Jen. I met her at Somerville a few years ago.
wow, that's a truly impressive Twitch hunt. Righteous indignation taken to the wrong level...
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Old 03-20-15, 12:31 PM
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Yeah that ST thread was over the top.
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Old 03-20-15, 12:32 PM
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I don't know. In a lot of this all that's keeping it from anarchy is fear of loss of face. One could make a case that in cheating in the manner she did, the punishment the was meted out to her was in some ways preventive for others.
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Old 03-20-15, 12:44 PM
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wow, that's a truly impressive Twitch hunt. Righteous indignation taken to the wrong level...
oh, man....there have been a bunch of them over the years. it is crazy the level of research that community can collectively do on cheating in podunk races.
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Plus, as the California contingent has sussed out, all of the NE racers are fakers, or worse, triathletes.
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Plus, as the California contingent has sussed out, all of the NE racers are fakers, or worse, triathletes.
Well, as we all know, the best racers are all in California, a California 4 is like a NE 2.
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Plus, as the California contingent has sussed out, all of the NE racers are fakers, or worse, triathletes.
That wouldn't have happened if you guys didn't kill 2Pac. (pours 40oz in dirt)

If you guys want to read a great cheating story, look up the runner Kip Litton. He's the alpha of cheats.

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Plus, as the California contingent has sussed out, all of the NE racers are fakers, or worse, triathletes.
zwifters ... the whole lot of you

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Old 03-20-15, 01:34 PM
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hey can one of you geeks write a script that **** cans #zwift posts?
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