I gave up on them. nothing wrong with them but they did not help my feet much. I found sandels are far better because you can adjust them for the socks you wear. I wan wear thin socks and waterproof socks and still fit or I can wear medium wool socks and lined waterproof socks no problem or I can wear heavy wool socks and fleece lined waterpoof socks no problem. I find this fare more practial then boots that are a pain to get on and I could not werar enough socks with them. plus the sandles are easier to walk in.