Originally Posted by ernok1923

these are all good rack ideas. thanks so much. i guess the reason i am looking for a front rack with a shelf is mostly do to space. i'm not a tall person and ride a 49cm frame. i do not wish to have a handlebar bag which rises above the bars. and since there isn't a whole lot of room to go the double-stem route, i am thinking about having the handlebar bag sitting on the shelf. now my only concern is being able to secure the bag to the shelf properly, but also being able to remove it quickly and easily. is there anything out there like this?