Originally Posted by chipcom

Or perhaps countries that have large amounts of bicycle and motor vehicle traffic (unlike the US) have decided that some segregation is the only way to achieve order. Do any of you really think if our roads were flooded with both bicycles and vehicles that everyone would live in complete harmony with everyone following the the same rules on the same roadways with no changes to provide better order among the different classes of vehicles? Hell, motorists can't even live in harmony among themselves, throw in equal amounts of bicycles, no matter how vc, and you got chaos. Your vc utopia is a pipe dream...if you were forward thinking you'd spend more time looking for acceptable ways to provide orderly flow of all classes of traffic, instead of clinging to a utopian dream that hasn't, and will not, ever come true.