about the new models of Dahon2008, as i know, there is a PA684 in the new.its shape and color looks like PA654(CurveSL), but with a Sturmey Archer 8 speed hub in it ,and the weight is same with PA654(less than 10kg).i found that in a japanese website, that's all i know.Dahon produce factory was built in China, so what we get easiest is Dahon folders,and what we talk most is Dahon folders(a little about pacific made folders).