Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike

Agreed. And that you and your similar thinking pals believe that applying Your standard for "Good Enough/Not Good Enough" bicycles is the gold standard for everyone else, no matter what their intended use of the bicycle. All bikes "Not Good Enough" for Your use/needs are "crap," and anyone not sharing that standard is a know-nothing gullible fool ripe for being bamboozled by the XMarts.