Originally Posted by
noisebeam
Yes, after stopping to see better if making a turn on red motorists need to (legally) move beyond the stop line, but that is the only reason they would ever need to.
Al
However, that leads to confusion among the following drivers, who can't guess whether the person in front has actually stopped, or is going to proceed through the turn, or is going to stop again (sometimes repeatedly). A car that goes, stops, goes, stops, goes, then stops again risks getting rear-ended, because the following driver is likely to be looking down the cross street already, thinking that after stopping once or twice,
surely the lead car is actually going to keep moving.