Originally Posted by Lazyrider

Well, I have owned 3 Litespeeds and still have 2 of them. I traded in my 2002 Vortex on a LS Solano which is essentially a 2001 Tuscany. I had issues with the integrated headset cups on my Vortex which was fixed but preferred my Solano because of the traditional hs. I also have a Lynskey designed LS Classic from 1997. All have great workmanship and are comparable to any ti frame out there.

The new Icon and Archon are really nice bikes and both can be built up light without too much effort. There is a feeling a ti bike has that CF cannot give you. I own 2 CF bikes as well, but my ti bikes are the ones I'd grab in a fire. Although the ti probably could survive a fire, hence the benefits of ti.