Originally Posted by
andre nickatina
Oh yeah - I'm fairly positive that Alien = Kazane. If you look at the pics of the two side by side, they are almost the same - "Super End" style fork dropouts, the blunted end of the seat stay where it meets top of seat tube, and the distinct rear track ends. Also, same tubing.
The lugs are from Long-Shen. For example the fork crown is available from many places like:
http://www.framebuilding.com/NEWPART...k%20Crowns.htm
The track ends:
http://www.framebuilding.com/Frame%20Ends%203.htm
So similarities there do not mean the frames are the same. As others have noted, the lugs are different, and the geometry. In particular the fork rake is quite different, making for quite different handling.
I have no idea where the Kazane is made, but I do know they are not the same frames. Aliens are made to my spec, and reflect my ideas of how a track frame should be, and the Kazane is made to the specs of the good folks at Keirin Culture. Variation is the spice of life!
Joseph (Alien)