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Originally Posted by extomesm
moser said if everyone raced like armstrong cycling would have to close up shop. start packing cuz pretty much everyone does in one way or another, wether its dedicating themselves to the one day races liek bettini and rebelin or dedicating yourself to a grand tour armstrong, simoni, and heras. armstorng only gets beefed at cuz he wins the most prominent race. why isnt heras criticised or simoni or ullrich(believe it or not he doees put everything into the tour) or hamilton or everyone in the top ten of a grand tour. lets face it nobody races 100 days a yr anymore.



Sure Bettini and Rebellin have their specialties, every athlete does. But most of the Peleton shows up at the starting line for lots and lots of races that are not their specialty. They are there for a variety of reasons, from contractual obligations, to make a living, or simply for the love of competing, like Eric Zabel for example.

Zabel races the entire calender year, start to finish of the regular pro season, and in the off season? He's a trackie, and a Madison racer.
He races the six-day circuit all around Germany. The Guy is simply an amazing athlete.

Ekimov is another, the guy has been racing for over 20 years now. He doesn't win or place very often, but he is still going strong, will Lance be racing when he is 39?

When critics say Lance doesnt give back to cycling, they not ignoring the fact that everyone in the US rides a TREK, Big Effin' Deal! They are talking about the Millions of dyed in the wool Cycling fans around the world, who are not able to travel to the TdF, and will never get to Armstrong race. Fans who will still be fans after LA has retired, because they love the sport, and are its true backbone.

Lance has won his fair share of "exhibition crits" too, but those don't count as major placings or results..



Here's some of Eddy Merckx's 525 victories....

In 1974 he won the Giro, the Tour de France, the Tour of Switzerland and the World Championships.


Here is the abridged version

(5 Tour de France wins (35 stage victories and 96 days in Yellow)
5 Giro di Italia Wins (25 stage victories)

3 Victories @ Paris-Roubaix
5 Victories @ Liege Bastogne Liege
7 Victories @ Milan-San Remo)

1965: 2nd Belgian Road Race Championship
1966: 1st Milano - San Remo, 1st Baracchi Trophy (with Ferdi Bracke), 1st Tour du Morbihan + 2 stages
1967: 1st Milano - San Remo, 1st Gent-Wevelgem, 1st Fleche Wallonne, 1st World Road Race Championship, 1st Baracchi Trophy (with Ferdi Bracke), 1st Ronde des Korrigans, 1st Prix d'Armentieres, 1st Grand Prix Salvarini, 1st Circuit du Tournaisis, 1st Wavre-Nandrin, 1st Prix de La Panne, 1st Prix de Sint Lenaarts, 1st Brabant Championship, 1st Prix de Liedekerke, 1st Prix de Simpelveld, 1st Prix d'Enter, 2nd Super Prestige Pernod, 2nd Liege-Bastogne-Liege, 3rd Ronde van Vlaanderen, 7th Giro di Lombardia, 8th Paris-Roubaix, 9th Giro d'Italia + 2 stages, 10th Paris-Nice + 2 stages
1968: 1st Giro di Sardinia, 1st Paris-Roubaix, 1st Giro d'Italia, 1st Gran Premio Cynar Lugano, 2nd Grand Prix of Forli, 4th Super Prestige Pernod
1969: 1st Paris-Nice, 1st Milano - San Remo, 1st Ronde van Vlaanderen, 1st Liege-Bastogne-Liege, 1st Tour de France, 1st Super Prestige Pernod
1970: 1st Tour de France,1st Paris-Nice, 1st Gent-Wevelgem, 1st Tour of Belgium, 1st Paris-Roubaix, 1st Fleche Wallonne, 1st Giro d'Italia, 1st Belgian Road Race Championship, 1st Super Prestige Pernod
1971: 1st Tour de France, 1st World Road Race Championship, 1st Giro di Sardinia, 1st Paris-Nice, 1st Het Volk, 1st Milano - San Remo, 1st Tour of Belgium, 1st Liege-Bastogne-Liege, 1st Giro di Lombardia, 1st Super Prestige Pernod
1972: 1st Giro d'Italia, 1st Tour de France, 1st Milano - San Remo, 1st Liege-Bastogne-Liege, 1st Fleche Wallonne, 1st Baracchi Trophy (with Roger Swerts), 1st Giro di Lombardia, 1st Super Prestige Pernod, 2nd Belgian Road Race Championship
1973: 1st Giro d'Italia, 1st Vuelta a Espana, 1st Paris-Roubaix, 1st Giro di Sardinia, 1st Het Volk, 1st Gent-Wevelgem, 1st Liege-Bastogne-Liege, 1st Cronostaffeta (3-man team time trail), 1st Paris - Bruxelles, 1st Grand Prix des Nations, 1st Super Prestige Pernod, 2nd Semana Catalana, 2nd Belgian Road Race Championship
1974: 1st Tour de France, 1st Giro d'Italia, 1st World Road Race Championship, 1st Tour de Suisse, 1st Super Prestige Pernod, 2nd Semana Catalana
1975: Milano - San Remo, 1st Ronde van Vlaanderen, 1st Liege-Bastogne-Liege, 1st Semana Catalana, 1st Super Prestige Pernod, 3rd Belgian Road Race Championship
1976: 1st Milano - San Remo, 1st Semana Catalana
1977: 1st Tour de la Mediterranean


Whether you think he's perfect, a spoiled prima donna, a doper etc...
Everyone here has to admit, they would all like it if Lance would compete in more races......

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