this one is from the 90's sometime...it is a road bike with shimano 105s on it... that is all I know so far... he going to email me some more info here in the next couple of days. from what I was seeing on bikepedia it looks as if there were carbonfibre from this time period that came with the 105;s... if so I would do that trade... I think that is if the bike looks good.... hehehehe isn't that what it's all about?