I've talked to a couple people that give me mixed opinions on that ride. They either say it's too slow, too fast, and/or too dangerous because most the people aren't riding without brakes and don't know how to stop very well and don't really know how to ride in a group. I've also heard some people like it and say it's fun...to all their own. I'm thinking about eventually building myself a single speed for commuting/beating and might try it just for ***** and giggles.