As far as the wheel's quality goes I haven't had any issues with them yet. Standard formula hubs so my surly stuff goes on smooth. All I did was true them right out of the box and they're still running straight for the past couple months. I would run these over the Vuelta wheels they sell, a friend of mine has those and they just look a bit cheap, these on the other hand look to be good quality and time will tell how durable they really are.