Yep sorry that is exactly what I meant, in the west, US and Aus. Especially over here, if it doesn't have a racing pedigree it is discouraged etc.
You're very right there Jur, as both of us know, having taken our small wheeled bikes on fast "full size bike" bunch rides......the demeaning comments, the ridiculing looks, the general attitude towards SWBs... until we hit the front and show 'em different
