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Old 04-20-09, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisvu05
Answer 1: He doesn't have to have a 6.7 anymore because the guys he would be beating these days don't have the talent or the doping to get them that high. (Ullrich, Basso, Vino, etc all dopers he beat).

Why is Allan Lim the end all be all of what is physiologically impossible? He's a smart man no doubt but there always is someone that comes along in every generation that breaks what was once thought to be unbreakable.

Look at Usain Bolt's 100 yd dash, look at Phelps....look at Steve Prefontaine...
Nice creative answer. You'll make up anything to hang onto your myth. The fact is that it's physiologically impossible to create 6.7 watts per kg with a VO2 max of 81, and that was Armstrong at his absolute best back in 1993 pre epo.

Allan Lim is not the only one who says this, but he's one of the more prominent physiologist's in cycling. It's funny and somewhat dismaying that you can dismiss all the evidence because of your faith in LA. Allan Lim is a smart man re human capacities, but you're smarter in this regard.

Your last sentence points to your ignorance of the subject.

Usain Bolt, maybe, he's 6'5" tall and there have not been that many tall 100 guys who can get out of the blocks like he can but there are questions as Jamaicans are rarely confronted with OOC's.

Phelps, well, we know he likes recreational drugs, plus he has an HGH face. The jury is definitely out on these two.

Steve Prefontaine takes the cake though. Why would you put him in there? Great runner but well within a normal range of performances. It seems you buy into mythology, and all this hagiography about people's toughness and this crap. Prefontaine came in fourth in the Olympics. Sure he was a great college runner, and badass, but his VO2 was 84 (exceptional and higher than Pharmstrong's) which is still within normal parameters.

Ferrari was the one who said that you need to generate 6.7 watts per kg to be competitive in the tour. That was apparently true from '99 to '05 but no longer. Now it's more than 10% lower? This is very funny how you can buy into nonsense.

Why don't you broaden your horizons and read some of the Walsh stuff or the Pantani book rather than argue where you just make stuff up.
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