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I bought a pair of the ATBs at $20, and I might even still think about it at 35, though at that price you could probably just get better quality for a bit more. I am using them already for commuting, and plan on some touring in a couple weeks. Initial quality seems good, and I plan on writing a review after a bit of use. I have a couple other Nashbar products, and I find that with a bit of extra care and handling, they hold up pretty well. They are NOT waterproof, however, and that is a showstopper for most. I use plastic bag liners, so no worries for me commuting, though.

As for a rack, I also use a cheap Nashbar (think I paid $19) that has over 1200 miles of commuting on it and is still rock solid. I bought cheap as I had to bend it a bit to fit my bike, which is an MTB. When I get a true touring bike, I will upgrade.

I used the Nashbar Daytrekkers for a year, but IMO they are a bit too small even for commuting, and def too small for touring. I am going to modify them for use as front rack bags.