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Old 06-08-09, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
I have theory, that is mine. I've noticed in all the bad press us cyclists have been getting lately, there is an overwhelming common theme about how if cyclists obeyed the rules of the road, we'd die less. My theory being .... here's where it gets crazy. Is that: I submit that the majority of cyclists killed, were killed, not just while riding according to the law, but more BECAUSE they were.

Riding in the door zone.... "as right as practicable", doored and then run over and killed. 110$ ticket to the doorer.
Virtually every cyclist in the early season killed seems to have been killed for being on the right hand side, by someone who "didn't see them"

This to me sounds like motorists are killing cyclists due to their lack of obeying the laws they whine we don't follow.
I don't wish to be ignorant about it, therefore I'd like to search out statistics... or for Toronto... all the data regarding cyclists killed in say what .... the last 5 years? Inversely, the "scofflaw riders" .... say, messengers, who are experienced in traffic have developed their own set of rules for riding with traffic. They seem to get hit / killed ALOT less than those following the rules on the books.

Any statistical monsters out there know where I might go fish?
The last systematic summary of deaths in Toronto that I'm aware of was in the '98 coronors report. http://www.toronto.ca/cycling/coroner_summary.htm.
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