Oh, one more thing about the frame - I'm running fatty 38c tires with full fenders and I get toe overlap into the fender in the front. In the back I had to push the wheel back to it's reasonable limit within the fork ends and lopped off a large portion of the forward facing portion of the fender. To save the frame from a constant beating from road grit and crap I found an old school aluminum chainstay guard and smack-nastied it on the seat tube. It actually looks damn good which is a good thing because I don't think it's ever coming off.