Ooooookaaay. I'm off, on wed. to tour the enchanted circle in New Mexico, I'll let you know how it goes. hey, Mr. grumpy... why not ride instead of trying to prove you're the sh*t. this is the touring forum, not the fixed gear cool factor. everybody I've ever met while touring has been friendly and interesting, what's with you ??? gear head ********** get out and ride !!!!! there's good people out on the road...... tour.... that's we're talking about....