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Originally Posted by YungBurke View Post
plenty of the jamis designs have slim steel tubes and sloping TTs
Look at Jamis carefully - they are MOSTLY aluminum. The Eclipse series are steel, but they are not thin tubes. They (and some others) use what they call Size Specific Tube Design, which essentially implies non-standard tubes.

I'm saying nothing about their quality, I'd take a Jamis steel bike readily, for the right price and application.
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