Well, it happened during a 6/12 hour endurance race this past weekend. I was out there as a trail marshal. The frame did split on a flat straight way, he was only 3 hours into the race. I found out from our local MTN bike group chapter meeting on Monday, that he contacted Voodoo about the problem to see about a warranty. And that's when they told him, they had been having alot of problems with that frame. I myself have been thinking about saving for a Voodoo, but now I am second guessing.