I gave up my cutting edge 4 bar linkage speciakized FRS Expert for a HT Gary fisher mid range HT....I luv it...I never felt comfy on the thing....no wI can clear stuff I could not...I was so uncomfortable it was slow.....I am now gonna get a suspension post to take the edge off..I am so much faster now.....Oh yeah and I a 40 somethin gold fat dude....been riding Mt bikes since 1986.....I had the c-dale beast of the east back in the day.....