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Old 09-04-15, 10:18 AM
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Take special care not to get hit riding in China.

People complain about getting hit by cars in the US/etc. It could be worse!

Why drivers in China intentionally kill the pedestrians they hit: China?s laws have encouraged the hit to kill phenomenon.
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Old 09-04-15, 11:43 AM
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I hope China doesn't export that product to the U.S.
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Old 09-04-15, 12:26 PM
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I've ridden in New York city for a few years. I've also biked in China for a while.
Chinese drivers are more considerate than NYCNJ drivers; in my observation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi01...IoDLA&index=45
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Old 09-04-15, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 1nterceptor View Post
I've ridden in New York city for a few years. I've also biked in China for a while.
Chinese drivers are more considerate than NYCNJ drivers; in my observation.
The issue isn't whether or not anybody is more/less considerate generally.

Even in NY/NJ, drivers trying to kill people they've collided with appears to basically never happen.

It appears more common that drivers in China are much less considerate when being considerate really matters.

Keep in mind that no one has any idea of how common it is (but it's clearly much more common than it should be).

What is interesting is that it's the socialist contry where the economic costs of "personal responsibilty" incentivises abhorant behavior.
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As much as I'd like to be appalled by this, and no doubt it's true. However, I'm sure it's not nearly as common there as people being shot and killed in the good ole US. I'm sure when they read about the violence in this country, they are equally appalled.
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Old 09-04-15, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bikepro View Post
As much as I'd like to be appalled by this, and no doubt it's true. However, I'm sure it's not nearly as common there as people being shot and killed in the good ole US. I'm sure when they read about the violence in this country, they are equally appalled.
Many people can be appalled by more than one thing.

Being shot and killed while riding is an extremely rare event. Motor vehicle collisions are much more common.
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Even if it is "more economical to kill than maim" I would think the person callous enough to intentionally drive over another fellow human several times to be quite rare. Makes for a sensational thread though!
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick View Post
Even if it is "more economical to kill than maim" I would think the person callous enough to intentionally drive over another fellow human several times to be quite rare. Makes for a sensational thread though!
If it's "quite rare", it's very remarkable that there are as many as there are of videos and eyewitnesses of it happening.

Cyclist fatalities in the US (700/year) are, arguably, "quite rare" too.

The article says it's "fairly common".

And yet not only is it true, it’s fairly common; security cameras have regularly captured drivers driving back and forth on top of victims to make sure that they are dead.
More about related occurrences:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...article618552/

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Slate? Not exactly your unbiased news source.

But I'll agree that Chinese culture with respect to the value of human life is quite different than ours.
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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
People complain about getting hit by cars in the US/etc. It could be worse!
So people complained about getting hit by cars in the US/etc., where "the US/etc." is anything but China?
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Old 09-05-15, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vol View Post
So people complained about getting hit by cars in the US/etc., where "the US/etc." is anything but China?
No doubt, people complain about being hit by cars in China too. But I haven't (to my recollection) seen people here do that. Most of the people here appear to be from the US (but not everyone). It appears that people being hit by cars in China might have more to complain about beyond just getting hit (which was the point). All that is obvious. It's kind of surprising that you needed to be told that.
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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
If it's "quite rare", it's very remarkable that there are as many as there are of videos and eyewitnesses of it happening.
Then it shouldn't be difficult for you to post some actual numbers that would show the prevalence of the practice of intentionally running over cyclists many times to ensure they are dead.
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick View Post
Then it shouldn't be difficult for you to post some actual numbers that would show the prevalence of the practice of intentionally running over cyclists many times to ensure they are dead.


I did not make that claim.
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Old 09-06-15, 07:17 AM
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Interesting and strange article. Remind me also not to travel to China.

Much prefer Japan where backing over people who you've hit is not considered OK.
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Old 09-06-15, 02:52 PM
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I feel pretty confident that this is hyperbolic and doesn't actually happen all that often.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
I feel pretty confident that this is hyperbolic and doesn't actually happen all that often.
My oldest brothers wife is from China, and her father is someone of influence in their government. I get the distinct impression that how things work there depends entirely on ones position in their society. A working class person killing a person of wealth or power would probably just "disappear".
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Old 09-09-15, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
I feel pretty confident that this is hyperbolic and doesn't actually happen all that often.
I second that. It's great sensationalist news, catering to an international audience quickly willing to swallow it wholesale.

How about we talk about gun killings which happen on a daily basis in America? Oh wait, that doesn't count. But everyone loses their minds when a country of 1.3 billion has a few nutjobs.
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Old 09-11-15, 09:34 AM
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