Risk of dying by sport
Statistics are very tricky. Basically, they try to predict the future and as that great American, Yogi Berra pointed out, "Making predictions is tough - especially about the future". Your Chances Of Dying Ranked By Sport and Activity | Teton Gravity Research
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I'm more worried about:
- Death by Couch - Death by TV Remote - Death by Boredom The worst death I can imagine is the failure to live while you have the chance. |
Originally Posted by berner
(Post 18318960)
Statistics are very tricky. Basically, they try to predict the future
It is easy enough to count the number of deaths, or injuries requiring medical attention. It is somewhat more difficult to estimate the number of participants in an activity, or to count minor injuries. Also, say a person dies of lung cancer. Whether or not they smoked, it is difficult to ascertain whether the cancer was caused by smoking, or just caused by some random event. |
Cycling can be very dangerous, but admit it, that can be half the fun as well. However, I don't
enjoy danger quite as much as I once did. Getting run over kinda puts a damper on it, especially the second time. Still, I persist; it is my greatest pleasure in life, and, in spite of many grave wounds, I will ride as long as I'm able. Keep your head on a swivel & stay focused. |
It's odd that cycling and being a pedestrian (jogging) are under sports, not transportation. This is particularly weird since it appears that a great number of the deaths of cyclists involve transportational cyclists (not too many century riders are rolling around town between 10:00 PM and 2:00 AM when a great many of the cycling deaths occur).
I generally ignore these sort of things anyway. It looks to me that if I don't ride drunk/ninja/salmon my odds are so good as to round off as negligible. |
316,000,000 Americans. 32,000 car deaths.
About 1 in 10,000 chance of dying in a car crash in a single year. Bicycling, and most of those sports, looks down right safe in comparison. |
Originally Posted by B. Carfree
(Post 18319171)
It's odd that cycling and being a pedestrian (jogging) are under sports, not transportation. This is particularly weird since it appears that a great number of the deaths of cyclists involve transportational cyclists (not too many century riders are rolling around town between 10:00 PM and 2:00 AM when a great many of the cycling deaths occur).
I generally ignore these sort of things anyway. It looks to me that if I don't ride drunk/ninja/salmon my odds are so good as to round off as negligible. |
May I point out that, according to these figures, dancing is more dangerous than biking.
maybe these irresponsible kids should be required to wear helmets... |
Lets' see, I have three potentially fatal (physical)'health issues'(two of them since birth; one of them is extremely common, but widely unknown). All three have no cure. I participate in two sports(bowling, bicycling). One is a very sedate sport. Could it kill me? Yes, If someone drops a 16pd. bowling ball on my head. One is a very aerobic sport. Could it kill me? Yes, Either by my own doing(not keeping control of my bike), or that of someone else not controlling their vehicle.
Do I stew over the possibility, no. Watch '1001 Ways To Die', on the Spike cable channel. |
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Originally Posted by rawly old
(Post 18319127)
Cycling can be very dangerous, but admit it, that can be half the fun as well.
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Originally Posted by berner
(Post 18318960)
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The risk is always there. Ya never when some gal running late for work & putting on
makeup is gonna enter your space at 50 in a 30 zone. I don't take risks in traffic. There's already plenty to go around. I still enjoy a bit of adrenaline downhill & in the curves. Was I time I'd ski at 80 mph before a driver put steel rods in my leg. I don't ski anymore,(who can afford it?), but I still hit a pretty good cadence for a fat 67 yr. old. I just don't push the edge as hard. "What doesn't kill you only forestalls the inevitable." |
Statistics don't predict the future, they present actual data of past incidences and factor in probability. Probability does not count on Festivus Miracles or the Spanish Inquisition...or dumb luck.
Things with more incidences have more probability, or another example would involve the potential damage that could happen if conditions were met. Head injuries vs. torso or lower extremity injuries...the effects of blunt force...internal or external...speed, force and what you impact... |
I always wondered who actually read those morbid and misleading 'death by activity' articles.
I just assumed it was the same little old ladies that read the daily obituaries with great interest every morning. |
Originally Posted by Chris0516
(Post 18319248)
I participate in two sports(bowling, bicycling). One is a very sedate sport. Could it kill me? Yes, If someone drops a 16pd. bowling ball on my head. One is a very aerobic sport. Could it kill me? Yes, Either by my own doing(not keeping control of my bike), or that of someone else not controlling their vehicle.
Bowling Deaths Double in 2006 |Raised By Turtles And, there are more bowling injuries than Rugby. Sports Injuries | III You should take care when participating in such a dangerous sport. |
Originally Posted by CliffordK
(Post 18327115)
Uhh... Ohhh.... Bowling deaths are on the rise, or at least they were in the first half of 2006.
Bowling Deaths Double in 2006 |Raised By Turtles And, there are more bowling injuries than Rugby. Sports Injuries | III You should take care when participating in such a dangerous sport. |
Shoot, I was a SCUBA instructor for years and years... if that didn't kill me, I guess cycling is a "walk in the park."
Interesting though, how close in odds, skydiving and cycling are. I would have thought skydiving vastly more dangerous... I would think each and every "accident" was fatal. (except for the rare "near death") |
Originally Posted by CliffordK
(Post 18327115)
Uhh... Ohhh.... Bowling deaths are on the rise, or at least they were in the first half of 2006.
Bowling Deaths Double in 2006 |Raised By Turtles And, there are more bowling injuries than Rugby. Sports Injuries | III You should take care when participating in such a dangerous sport. |
The stats don't even measure the real cause of death in some cases. In America at least... deaths can be (and are) counted multiple times. A drunk, dying of heart failure, during a automobile accident, that occurs during a snow storm.... can actually be counted as having 4 different causes of death. As well as the death being counted 4 times.
If you separate children's bicycle deaths from adults. About half of the "adult" fatal bicycle deaths also are related to alcohol. Although I should point out that not ALL the alcohol was consumed by the cyclists. Once you remove the children's stat, and the drinking stat, cycling (for sober adults) gets amazingly safe. Unfortunately... we don't have stats that might cast some light on the dangers of cycling to the local pub. |
Originally Posted by GravelMN
(Post 18318976)
I'm more worried about:
- Death by Couch - Death by TV Remote - Death by Boredom The worst death I can imagine is the failure to live while you have the chance. |
Originally Posted by hooCycles
(Post 18328839)
Excellent post
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Originally Posted by genec
(Post 18327415)
Interesting though, how close in odds, skydiving and cycling are. I would have thought skydiving vastly more dangerous... I would think each and every "accident" was fatal. (except for the rare "near death")
I have no doubt there are quite a few non-fatal accidents with skydiving. Broken legs, getting stuck in trees, etc. Deploying chutes is checked and double checked, and redundant chutes are normally carried. Base jumping is somewhat more dangerous because there is a lot less time to recover from failures. The report I found, above, just reports raw numbers of injuries. So, there are more bowlers than Rugby players, and thus more injuries with bowling. How did they exclude MTBs from their cycling stats? Anyway, raw injuries without also estimating the number of participants, or time doing the activity aren't very representative. |
Originally Posted by genec
(Post 18327415)
Shoot, I was a SCUBA instructor for years and years... if that didn't kill me, I guess cycling is a "walk in the park."
Interesting though, how close in odds, skydiving and cycling are. I would have thought skydiving vastly more dangerous... I would think each and every "accident" was fatal. (except for the rare "near death") |
Originally Posted by Dave Cutter
(Post 18327924)
The stats don't even measure the real cause of death in some cases. In America at least... deaths can be (and are) counted multiple times. A drunk, dying of heart failure, during a automobile accident, that occurs during a snow storm.... can actually be counted as having 4 different causes of death. As well as the death being counted 4 times.
Citation needed. |
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