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Old 06-12-18, 11:01 AM
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In my opinion, the sentence should have been life in prison without the possibility of parole. The fact that the sentences are served concurrently doesn't seem right. I seems like the killings after the first one are of lesser importance. If it were a like sentence, then it wouldn't matter.
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Old 06-12-18, 12:06 PM
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Yeah, seems like even the possibility of release is too lenient. I'm not a lawyer, but I do know that sometimes legal choices are made on the basis of technicalities. Perhaps serving concurrently lessens the risk of sentencing being overturned on appeal.

As a practical matter it probably doesn't matter. Looks like he's packed on weight while in jail, not sure he'll live to age 90.
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Old 06-12-18, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Equinox View Post
In my opinion, the sentence should have been life in prison without the possibility of parole. The fact that the sentences are served concurrently doesn't seem right. I seems like the killings after the first one are of lesser importance. If it were a like sentence, then it wouldn't matter.
Technically speaking sentence for each of the five deaths are not concurrent:
- death #1 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #2 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #3 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #4 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #5 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
Gives a total sentence of 40 to 75 years for the operating while intoxicated causing death charges.

In addition to the operating while intoxicated charges, he was also sentenced to five counts of second degree second degree murder. The total sentence for these five murder charges is 35 to 55 years. This sentence is concurrent with the 40 to 75 years above.

In addition to the charges listed above, Pickett was also sentenced for four counts of operating while intoxicated resulting in serious injury. Each of these counts is 3 to 5 years and these sentences are concurrent with the 40 to 75 and 35 to 55 from above.

For a man his age, the normal life expectancy is another 30 years - so chances are greater than not that he will die in prison.
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Old 06-12-18, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mev View Post
Technically speaking sentence for each of the five deaths are not concurrent:
- death #1 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #2 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #3 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #4 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #5 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
Gives a total sentence of 40 to 75 years for the operating while intoxicated causing death charges.

In addition to the operating while intoxicated charges, he was also sentenced to five counts of second degree second degree murder. The total sentence for these five murder charges is 35 to 55 years. This sentence is concurrent with the 40 to 75 years above.

In addition to the charges listed above, Pickett was also sentenced for four counts of operating while intoxicated resulting in serious injury. Each of these counts is 3 to 5 years and these sentences are concurrent with the 40 to 75 and 35 to 55 from above.

For a man his age, the normal life expectancy is another 30 years - so chances are greater than not that he will die in prison.
I realize it's just a technicality, and the reality is he will die in prison. However, I stand by my initial statement. Murder was his most serious offense. It appears there is not additional sanction after the first murder. Why not sentence him to 175 years in prison? He destroyed so many lives here. I really don't mean to argue. I understand what the likely outcome for this murderer will be.
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Old 06-13-18, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mev View Post
Technically speaking sentence for each of the five deaths are not concurrent:
- death #1 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #2 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #3 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #4 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
- death #5 = 8 to 15 years (operating while intoxicated)
Gives a total sentence of 40 to 75 years for the operating while intoxicated causing death charges.

In addition to the operating while intoxicated charges, he was also sentenced to five counts of second degree second degree murder. The total sentence for these five murder charges is 35 to 55 years. This sentence is concurrent with the 40 to 75 years above.

In addition to the charges listed above, Pickett was also sentenced for four counts of operating while intoxicated resulting in serious injury. Each of these counts is 3 to 5 years and these sentences are concurrent with the 40 to 75 and 35 to 55 from above.

For a man his age, the normal life expectancy is another 30 years - so chances are greater than not that he will die in prison.
So wait, he got 8-15 per for operating while intoxicated but only 7-11 per for second degree murder? How does that work?
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Old 06-13-18, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by himespau View Post
So wait, he got 8-15 per for operating while intoxicated but only 7-11 per for second degree murder? How does that work?
http://wwmt.com/news/local/charles-pickett-sentenced
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This article made it a bit more clear than the first one I read. It seems like his five convictions for murder 2 are served concurrently and are presumably 35-55 years each. The charges for operating under the influence are 8-15 years each and are to be served consecutively so this makes the 40-75 year sentence.

The article also quoted, "the judge called his actions 'too violent and horrifying ' to stick with the sentencing guidelines"
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Old 06-14-18, 05:39 AM
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Justice has been served.
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