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Old 08-20-16, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
What always kills me is they are i such a big hurry and that you are in their way slowing them down, but then can take the time to stop and have a confrontation. SMH
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Really, there is nothing more to say at that point... maybe look 'em straight in the face and ask... "Aren't you going to be late for something... you WERE in an awful big hurry..."
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It's called a "politician's apology". They're only sorry for getting caught.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
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Really, there is nothing more to say at that point... maybe look 'em straight in the face and ask... "Aren't you going to be late for something... you WERE in an awful big hurry..."
I had one of those guess that pushed things far enough that the police were called. He had to call someone to tell them he would be late. For me, I started work at what ever time I wanted, no fixed schedule.
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
Biker kept cool. Time to carry pepper spray.
Right out threatened the biker....Cops should get off their behinds and pay this cager a visit.
Too close for pepper spray.
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Originally Posted by Chris0516 View Post
Too close for pepper spray.
Ya, I always think about carrying pepper spray. My work takes me to a semi-secure area where that has off-duty cops. I asked them how many times they have pepper sprayed somebody, and the answer is always "quite a few"... followed by
"it doesn't work on everybody. Some people open their mouth and try to drink it. Some people are so jacked up on something it makes the situation worse".... so I keep rethinking the pepper spray and never carry it. Best thing to do is de-escalate the situation like the rider in the video.
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Old 08-22-16, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
What always kills me is they are i such a big hurry and that you are in their way slowing them down, but then can take the time to stop and have a confrontation. SMH
Not only that. They rant n' rave claiming we are in their way. When they have plenty of opportunities(within reason) to pass a cyclist.
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
Biker kept cool. Time to carry pepper spray.
Right out threatened the biker....Cops should get off their behinds and pay this cager a visit.

Pepper spray is probably not legal to use.


Why face assault charges yourself? You have video, you have media exposure, you have an investigation.


And you still have a civil suit that you can file either way.


Rambo is not the approach.


Don't escalate the situation, and if you were to be found at fault it would only make matters worse for you than it already would be.


Now, you have a video with the aftermath and not full insight and testimony as to the extenuating circumstances. They would likely be many of those. This is not a one-dimensional scenario.


This is a case to be investigated and gone over in a court of law.


It's not pleasant to have to watch, and it angers you I'm sure but we're not prosecuting anyone, it's an opinion we hold.
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
Ya, I always think about carrying pepper spray. My work takes me to a semi-secure area where that has off-duty cops. I asked them how many times they have pepper sprayed somebody, and the answer is always "quite a few"... followed by
"it doesn't work on everybody. Some people open their mouth and try to drink it. Some people are so jacked up on something it makes the situation worse".... so I keep rethinking the pepper spray and never carry it. Best thing to do is de-escalate the situation like the rider in the video.

Most definitely. The key to defending yourself against irrational behavior is not to repeat it.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
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Really, there is nothing more to say at that point... maybe look 'em straight in the face and ask... "Aren't you going to be late for something... you WERE in an awful big hurry..."

I had that happen once. I pointed out to the employee who was already late for work and tried to pass me on the right as I was turning my car to the right and into my own driveway as he was getting out of his truck at the front gate (just down the street)wanting to make something of it, that I knew the woman at the gate well and we both sang karaoke at the same bar often. She' would wonder about that and might not be so sympathetic.


Anyway, it's hard to get a job there so I wouldn't want to raise a stink at the gate.


I also knew which trailer park he lived in and where anyway, and he was a bit of a bully with his vehicle to me before. The belligerence ceased after that.
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Originally Posted by Hokiedad4 View Post
It's called a "politician's apology". They're only sorry for getting caught.
Almost as bad as the standard "If anyone was offended, then I'm sorry" non-apology. Basically it says "I'm not in the wrong, but if you're so dumb as to be offended by what I said then I guess I'll apologize to you." Which is similar to his apology of "I'm sorry for the language I used." But yes, I agree he wouldn't have apologized one bit had this not gotten online attention.
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^ Harry Shearer's LeShow has a recurring segment called "apologies of the week--with The Beatles' refrain 'So sorry' playing as background noise."

This, in LeShow parlance, is known as an "ifpology." The examples are legion.
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
Ya, I always think about carrying pepper spray. My work takes me to a semi-secure area where that has off-duty cops. I asked them how many times they have pepper sprayed somebody, and the answer is always "quite a few"... followed by
"it doesn't work on everybody. Some people open their mouth and try to drink it. Some people are so jacked up on something it makes the situation worse".... so I keep rethinking the pepper spray and never carry it. Best thing to do is de-escalate the situation like the rider in the video.
It can fly back in the face of the person who is doing the spraying.
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This is why I carry.
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This is why I carry.
So someone is yelling at you... and then you pull a gun? Seems like quite a leap in escalation.

Shouldn't you at least wait for a knife?
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike View Post
"Share the road" is open to a wide range of interpretation by motorists also. To most motorists, share the road means when they roar up behind me I should get the Hell out of their way in order to share. Sharrows are redundant symbols that only works with motorists educated on their meaning. Maybe. If I already have a right to be on the road, why do I need signs and symbols on CERTAIN roads?
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Exactly!!! I not only won't get out of their way. I go out to the of the lane. To let them know. The only way they are going to pass me is, by going into the passing/oncoming lane.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
So someone is yelling at you... and then you pull a gun? Seems like quite a leap in escalation.

Shouldn't you at least wait for a knife?
If it is OPEN carry, the point is you do not have to 'pull' the gun. As soon as you put your hand on it and ask, do you really want to get it on, the driver goes back to his car and leaves. It even works with just a mace gun.
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If it is OPEN carry, the point is you do not have to 'pull' the gun. As soon as you put your hand on it and ask, do you really want to get it on, the driver goes back to his car and leaves. It even works with just a mace gun.
Or with equal likelihood, the driver goes back to hs car, gets in and runs you butt over since you threatened him. Or also possible especially in open carry states, the driver will go back to his car, get his gun and open fire on the posturing cyclist.

Choice is up to each to make the proper decision. There is no universal truth in dealing with jerk drivers with entitlement issues.
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Or with equal likelihood, the driver goes back to hs car, gets in and runs you butt over since you threatened him. Or also possible especially in open carry states, the driver will go back to his car, get his gun and open fire on the posturing cyclist.

Choice is up to each to make the proper decision. There is no universal truth in dealing with jerk drivers with entitlement issues.
2 out of 2 instances with mace gun happened as I stated. In 2 out of 2 instances without the mace gun, I had to beat the driver back after they got physical.

In all of the cases, they got back in their car and ran away after beat back or seeing the mace gun.

I consider it better to end the fight before it is physical.
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If it is OPEN carry, the point is you do not have to 'pull' the gun. As soon as you put your hand on it and ask, do you really want to get it on, the driver goes back to his car and leaves. It even works with just a mace gun.
No open carry in CA.
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike View Post
"Share the road" is open to a wide range of interpretation by motorists also. To most motorists, share the road means when they roar up behind me I should get the Hell out of their way in order to share. Sharrows are redundant symbols that only works with motorists educated on their meaning. Maybe. If I already have a right to be on the road, why do I need signs and symbols on CERTAIN roads?
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LOL. The concept of "sharing" is lost on motorists. I don't really know what they're thinking. "I'll share the road with you as long as you get out of my way." Bicyclists defer to motorists 99.99% of the time out of a quest for survival. We are all fine with that. However, on the very rare occasions we have to figuratively "share" the road, we would like to have the motorist's indulgence for a few seconds.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
So someone is yelling at you... and then you pull a gun? Seems like quite a leap in escalation.

Shouldn't you at least wait for a knife?
A knife is also quite a leap.

A gun requires a CCW license.
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A knife is also quite a leap.

A gun requires a CCW license.
Oh agreed... any escalation is a leap as far as I am concerned... but I didn't suggest the gun.
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