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Old 09-15-16, 09:27 AM
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My Helmet Story

**I read the sticky and this happened a decade ago and all legal issues criminal and civil have long since been resolved**

A while back I was commuting 17-19 miles each way four days per week. The 17 mile route was if I rode in from the East side of Saint Paul, down the hills to Kellogg and then crossed the river in town. The 19 mile route curved along the river on a path and then I just had to hope through downtown a few blocks to get across the bridge. The 17 miles route took 65 minutes the 19 mile route took 75 minutes. Generally I preferred the quicker route.

One October morning I am riding, lights flashing, reflectors on, red jersey and I'm approaching a high school. The initial approach is downhill but then as you pass the high school it's a hill. I slowed down to around 17mph and started coasting looking. On the main road I was on people were waiting to make a leg turn and the lead car was already waiting for me. On the side street to my right a van was waiting, he had to yield right of way to me and the traffic facing me. I watched him and once I got to the spot where it was "too late" for him to try and drive out I accelerated and right then he pulls out. I brake and try to avoid him but he clips me and I am flying through the air sideways. My shoulder hits, then my head. I remember thinking "Thank God I have this helmet."

In the ER the doctor comes back holding my X-rays and says "You probably want some morphine huh?" My collar bone was broken and much, much, worse my left shoulder blade was broken in half as well. While the shoulder absorbed the majority of the impact my head whipping into the asphalt right afterwords would have had much more dire consequences had I not worn the helmet.

So that's my plug for wearing helmets.

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The driver ran
After I recovered I always took the 19 mile route.
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I'm sure there's tons of stories like yours. No doubt. Your helmet saved you. Mine? Not so much. I've had it ten years now and it doesn't have so much as a scratch on it. It's a handy place to mount my EVT helmet mount rear-view mirror though. Just curious... what made you decide to share this today? 10 years ago? We could be here a really long time if I decided to start sharing significant cycling incidents from back in the day with everyone.
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Originally Posted by jorglueke View Post
...a van was waiting, he had to yield right of way to me...
This is a good lesson to learn from too...

... right then he pulls out.
This I call a "hit-man stop". Not much you can do but get hit. My second greatest fear is the hit-man. First is rear-ended. Two of cyclists most helpless positions.

Glad you recovered. Don't be surprised if the helmet trolls don't yield to you either.
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Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
...what made you decide to share this today?
Only 23 posts if you noticed. Either new or not much on conversation would be my guess.
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Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
Mine? Not so much. I've had it ten years now and it doesn't have so much as a scratch on it.
If I could predict the time I'd have an accident, I simply would avoid it. Just because you've never had an accident, doesn't mean one will never happen. Worst wreck I've ever had on a bicycle, the whole time going down all I could think was "well, not bringing one was stupid, protect your head, protect your head!"

I normally wore an open face helmet on my motorcycle, because like you I knew I'd never wreck. The morning I decided to do a faceplant going in to work, I couldn't find it in time, and grabbed my closed face one. Taught me a rather important lesson, thankfully one that didn't necessitate facial reconstruction surgery or skin grafts on my cheeks.
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Don't we have a whole thread for this somewhere?
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Old 09-15-16, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
Just curious... what made you decide to share this today? 10 years ago? We could be here a really long time if I decided to start sharing significant cycling incidents from back in the day with everyone.
I just joined the forum so...

This personal account is my strongest reason for advocating for the use of the helmet as safety equipment.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
Don't we have a whole thread for this somewhere?
I don't know? Is there one for people who complain with no positive input?
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Originally Posted by jorglueke View Post
I don't know? Is there one for people who complain with no positive input?
My friend, you have just described the comments on most of the threads around here!

I'm glad you came through the accident head intact. There are a lot of people around here who will now come out of the woodwork to tell you that you are wrong, and the helmet did nothing. I would advise ignoring them, because you cannot change their minds. Anyway, you know what really happened.
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Originally Posted by jorglueke View Post
**I read the sticky and this happened a decade ago and all legal issues criminal and civil have long since been resolved**

A while back I was commuting 17-19 miles each way four days per week. The 17 mile route was if I rode in from the East side of Saint Paul, down the hills to Kellogg and then crossed the river in town. The 19 mile route curved along the river on a path and then I just had to hope through downtown a few blocks to get across the bridge. The 17 miles route took 65 minutes the 19 mile route took 75 minutes. Generally I preferred the quicker route.

One October morning I am riding, lights flashing, reflectors on, red jersey and I'm approaching a high school. The initial approach is downhill but then as you pass the high school it's a hill. I slowed down to around 17mph and started coasting looking. On the main road I was on people were waiting to make a leg turn and the lead car was already waiting for me. On the side street to my right a van was waiting, he had to yield right of way to me and the traffic facing me. I watched him and once I got to the spot where it was "too late" for him to try and drive out I accelerated and right then he pulls out. I brake and try to avoid him but he clips me and I am flying through the air sideways. My shoulder hits, then my head. I remember thinking "Thank God I have this helmet."

In the ER the doctor comes back holding my X-rays and says "You probably want some morphine huh?" My collar bone was broken and much, much, worse my left shoulder blade was broken in half as well. While the shoulder absorbed the majority of the impact my head whipping into the asphalt right afterwords would have had much more dire consequences had I not worn the helmet.

So that's my plug for wearing helmets.

Addenda:

The driver ran
After I recovered I always took the 19 mile route.
Good ending....
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Welcome to the forum. People either love helmets or hate them, and no amount of typing is going to change the mind of either side. I organized a kids bike helmet give away that's given away about 900 helmets so far, and none of the parent wonder if their kid should get one or not. The ones that don't believe don't come, and the ones that don't wonder what choices there are for the one their kid is going to wear.
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Humm, I didn't know ditching helmets was really "a thing" with anyone. I guess I understand (but disagree with) folks who don't feel like bothering with a helmet, but then it's really not that much bother, is it?

Glad the OP recovered OK and had a helmet!

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5000-plus miles ridden per year, for years, and never needed my stinking helmet once. I still wear it every time I ride though. Just in case.
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No doubt your helmet did save you from further harm. But if you posted this on the helmet forum the anti helmet types would pick your story apart and claim it is meaningless.
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
No doubt your helmet did save you from further harm. But if you posted this on the helmet forum the anti helmet types would pick your story apart and claim it is meaningless.
it isn't that his story is meaningless ... it is that it means something different to each reader.

I do not wear a helmet on-road, and despite having sometimes ridden in a fashion which surely should have earned me major head injuries---or which might have been indicative of past head injuries----and despite numerous spills and collisions, I have never managed to cause myself head injury (at least, not that I remember.

I always wear a helmet off-road, and I have sustained a few concussions while riding off-road. Does this mean helmets cause concussions? Increase the severity of accidents? Do I ride more recklessly because I feel safer?

Or ... are these merely experiences related only in that they all happened to me, and prove nothing about any connection between helmets, collisions, or safety?

The OP presents his story as a cautionary moral tale--"I would have been hurt much worse without a helmet, so wear one!" so That is what is likely going to draw the ire of the lidless. Because, as we all know ... you can get really messed up with or without safety gear, or you can have a stroke at home ... and for all he knows, the added acceleration caused by the greater weight of his helmeted head offset any impact reduction.

The guy asked for it by using his tale to push his pro-helmet agenda.

Seriously, why people cannot let such things be personal choice ... is kind of sickening.

We could be crusading for so many things which would actually vastly improve the lives of so many people ... yet we bicker over foam-and-plastic eggshells. Wear what you like, and accept the responsibility for All your choices, and don't meddle with in petty affairs that are purely others' ....


I kind of liked his story, though ... because i don't care what he thinks about helmets, it was just a cool story about surviving a wreck.
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Rydabent never misses the opportunity to point out his superior intellect over the foolish non-helmet wearing morons.
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Originally Posted by jorglueke View Post
I don't know? Is there one for people who complain with no positive input?
No really, there is a well-established thread for helmet discussions. The idea is not to start a new thread every time the subject comes up. I'm surprised no one else pointed it out. Wasn't trying to be negative at all.
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A bicycle helmet and a carbon-fiber bike frame teamed up to kill my great-grandmother.
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Originally Posted by baron von trail View Post
5000-plus miles ridden per year, for years, and never needed my stinking helmet once. I still wear it every time I ride though. Just in case.
There's always going to be that first time. I hope that you, myself, and everyone else here never needs it that "first time" or in some cases "next time," but we never know when or if that time will come. Better to be prepared just in case, because no helmet will do you any good sitting on a shelf at home when you have an accident.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
There are a lot of people around here who will now come out of the woodwork to tell you that you are wrong, and the helmet did nothing. I would advise ignoring them, because you cannot change their minds. Anyway, you know what really happened.
And probably a couple who will claim that wearing a helmet caused the accident to begin with, because it made you be more reckless, based on some poorly-run study.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
There are a lot of people around here who will now come out of the woodwork to tell you that you are wrong, and the helmet did nothing. I would advise ignoring them, because you cannot change their minds.
Would that you would ignore us and let us ride the way we choose, without always telling us how stupid we are. Maybe if everyone didn't feel smugly superior for their choices, we could all discuss stuff that mattered.

Follow your own rules, lostarchitect---ignore the people who claim that helmets are harmful. Ignore the people who think helmets should be a matter of choice. Don't post anything about how the fools who don't wear helmets will wish they did some day ... or rather that you hope they don't.

If you and the rest of the helmet wearers could do this, you would have the high ground when the anti-helmeteers got all loud and rowdy. You could then tell them, "Hey, we don't push our agenda, stop pushing yours."

I don't wear a helmet. I do not respect or disrespect anyone who does, for that choice. I don't tell you to wear full-face helmets, HANS devices, knee- and elbow pads, and some sort of cycling-specific breastplate with protruding arms which protect the collarbones when cyclists fall. Whether you guys like to admit it or not ... we ALL make compromises for safety and comfort.

I say ... ride your bike. I will ride mine. I will thereby be happy. Hopefully you will too. If not, don't ride your bike.

Pretty simple. I think.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Would that you would ignore us and let us ride the way we choose, without always telling us how stupid we are. Maybe if everyone didn't feel smugly superior for their choices, we could all discuss stuff that mattered.

Follow your own rules, lostarchitect---ignore the people who claim that helmets are harmful. Ignore the people who think helmets should be a matter of choice. Don't post anything about how the fools who don't wear helmets will wish they did some day ... or rather that you hope they don't.

If you and the rest of the helmet wearers could do this, you would have the high ground when the anti-helmeteers got all loud and rowdy. You could then tell them, "Hey, we don't push our agenda, stop pushing yours."

I don't wear a helmet. I do not respect or disrespect anyone who does, for that choice. I don't tell you to wear full-face helmets, HANS devices, knee- and elbow pads, and some sort of cycling-specific breastplate with protruding arms which protect the collarbones when cyclists fall. Whether you guys like to admit it or not ... we ALL make compromises for safety and comfort.

I say ... ride your bike. I will ride mine. I will thereby be happy. Hopefully you will too. If not, don't ride your bike.

Pretty simple. I think.

I'm not a helmet evangelist, and unlike what you implied above, I do think bicycle helmets should be a matter of choice. But since you targeted me for your comment, I will respond.

It's not "pretty simple", actually. Sometimes people are wrong, and their being wrong can cause real harm not just to themselves, but to others as well. It might be your opinion that strapping a pillow on your head with a belt is the best possible protective gear. That would be wrong, and stupid, but if people believe you, it could end badly for them. I would understand it if, when you posted about it on this site, or told someone about it in person, someone else told you that was wrong and stupid, and that following your advice could be a serious mistake. I doubt the person making the correction would feel "smugly superior". Instead I suspect they would feel concern for you and for those who might read what you wrote. You are free to reject their concern, but it is in the public interest for people to call out a wrong and stupid idea for what it is. I don't care if you feel disrespected when someone calls you out, because it may save other people from believing a wrong and stupid idea that could cause them harm.

You should also note that (again, unlike what you imply) nobody is demanding you or anyone else wear a helmet. OP is telling you his experience and hoping you learn from it. You probably won't, but maybe someone will.
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Do you wear a full-face helmet? Why not? Think of the harm you could do to others.

In fact, why didn't you simply ignore me?

By the way, reading comprehension for the win:

I said that I will enjoy riding my bike, and you should ride your bike and enjoy riding it, and if you don't, don't ride. is that not simple enough for you?

Please, take you own advice and ignore me. We will both be better off, I expect.

I still like the OP's story.
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OP, see what you have started?

Everybody just keep riding!
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