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Old 03-13-17, 12:05 AM
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Will it do any good & do you drink too much mouthwash

Will courts really hold people to a new BAC of 0.05?

Show of hands, how many of you have gotten drunk drinking too much mouthwash?

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Old 03-13-17, 05:37 AM
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California already has a BAC limit of 0.01 percent for those under 21.
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Old 03-13-17, 07:52 AM
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NyQuil is my go to OTC intoxicant.
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Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
California already has a BAC limit of 0.01 percent for those under 21.
I think (may not be correct, no experience with this) that NYS has a ZERO tolerance law for underage drinking. If you are underage and caught with ANY alcohol in your system, not only are you in trouble with the law, but so is the person(s) responsible. If you were drinking at someone's house (even without their knowledge and consent), they too will be charged with violations of the law.

Most alcoholics started out drinking at young ages, so awareness might help with legal issues later on in life.
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Maybe time people stopped tolerating intolerance?
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Old 03-13-17, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
Maybe time people stopped tolerating intolerance?
Most, but not all "no tolerance" laws are in effect for good reasons. I think the NYS position on under aged drinking is one of the better ones. Young people are very impressionable and want to mimic what they see adults do, but all too often, the results costs lives due to their lack of drinking experience and driving.

Then there are some that must have hidden agenda's.
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I dont know about mouthwash, but little old ladies swear by Geritol!!!!!
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There is at least one non-alcohol mouthwash on the market that I can recall...


PS Most alcohol tastes bad and if you have to tart it up with fruit (tomatoes are fruits as well) then you really want Kool-Aid.
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I've never drank mouthwash in my life. Swished it around my mouth & spit it out, but never drank it.
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Old 03-14-17, 08:33 AM
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I support people who choose to drink and NOT DRIVE. If you are going to use a substance that impairs judgement, you should make all transportation plans before you begin drinking. Sure there are some people who pace themselves and can pull off timing their drinks and are under the limit when they head home but I don't trust that many drinkers have that ability especially after drinking. Bottom line is don't drink and drive. Why is that so hard for people to live by?
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Originally Posted by Number400 View Post
Bottom line is don't drink and drive. Why is that so hard for people to live by?

For some, it's no different than texting and driving. They think they can do it safely. And for many people, if you wan to go out somewhere and enjoy dinner, music, etc., with drinks, you have to drive, sometimes long distances. People are not going to deny themselves.


I remember touring on the High Line in Montana while crossing the country. One day we stayed in a town with a movie theater and some bars and restaurants. The closest town to that one was 40 miles away. One guy in our group noted that if you wanted to see a movie or go out to eat, you had to drive 80 miles round trip. Having grown up in the big city, that was such a foreign concept to me, but it's reality for a lot of people.
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stuck at home due to a snow storm. maybe it's a good day for bourbon. don't know why anyone would drink mouthwash
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Old 03-14-17, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NYMXer View Post
I think (may not be correct, no experience with this) that NYS has a ZERO tolerance law for underage drinking. If you are underage and caught with ANY alcohol in your system, not only are you in trouble with the law, but so is the person(s) responsible. If you were drinking at someone's house (even without their knowledge and consent), they too will be charged with violations of the law.

Most alcoholics started out drinking at young ages, so awareness might help with legal issues later on in life.
i thought creating awareness teaches people, it doesnt just rightout ban it?
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Old 03-14-17, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
For some, it's no different than texting and driving.
True just as some people think there is no difference in effect/risk between driving while talking on a phone and staring into a phone screen to type and read messages while driving, others can't distinguish between driving after having a drink and driving while intoxicated.
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Fyi-- for a 200 pound male, a BAC of 0.05 is more than 3 drinks (1.25 oz. of 80 proof liquor, 12 oz. of beer or 5 oz. of table wine) in an hour...
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Old 03-14-17, 10:53 AM
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lol, NY, the state that wants to run your life from start to end.. and charge you .. i mean tax you to do it.
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I don't have an issue with 0.05% BAC laws IF we also move to graduated violations, so those between 0.05 and 0.08 are charged with different violations and face different fines. IMO a 1st offense at the lower level should not be charged as a DUI unless there are aggravating circumstances, ie. an accident, or visible erratic driving as cause for the top.

We might make 2nd violations of even the lower lever more serious, ie. 2nd at 0.05 = 1st at 0.08.

My point is that we don't need to criminalize ever greater percentages of our population in an effort to make incremental improvements.
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--e.g.,

If you weigh in at 180 pounds, you can spend an hour with friends at a happy hour after work, drink 2 draft 7% IPAs and legally drive home (i.e., not legally intoxicated) because if you'd come in at 0.047; and, your BAC would fall 0.01 /hr... but, if you have that 3rd IPA, you'd better call the wife and tell her the law says you have to spend 2 hours and 40 minutes in the bar before driving home. If you're LCF you might wait a little longer before peddling home-- otherwise, while you might not kill anyone else, your own safety would be in question.

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Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
Maybe time people stopped tolerating intolerance?
+1, I hate ANY zero tolerance rule.

But keep in mind that the legal drinking age in NYS is 21, so any underage driver testing positive for alcohol has broken the law already. This rule is simply a lever used to encourage (coerce) compliance for an age group with a higher accident and fatality rate than the general public.

Also keep in mind, that I doubt that officers are stopping an breathalyzing people looking to snare anyone for trace amounts. It's extremely likely that anyone Breathalyzed in NYS is going to come in with readings higher than 0.01 or even 0.03%. That is unless erratic driving was cause for the stop and the low alcohol was incidental to whatever was the root problem.
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Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
Most alcohol tastes bad and if you have to tart it up with fruit (tomatoes are fruits as well) then you really want Kool-Aid.
LOL! More whiskey for me!
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...Bottom line is don't drink and drive. Why is that so hard for people to live by?
I never drink and drive either. If I get pulled over, and the officer asks me if I have been drinking, my answer is going to be "I do not drink alcohol."

Occasionally I have a drink with my wife AT HOME. No living person has ever seen me finish a beer. So I could literally fill any courtroom with friends and acquaintances willing to testify they have never seen me drink alcohol. Those who know me well socially would only be able to testify that I am adamant about not drinking if I am driving and have never seen me take a sip of booze if I were the DD.

It just isn't worth it.
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes View Post
I've never drank mouthwash in my life. Swished it around my mouth & spit it out, but never drank it.
I remember the crowd in high school that it was rumored drank mouthwash. We used to call them "burnouts"; imagine a kind of early proto-grunge look. Most of them are now either dead or in prison....
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