phoebeisis

Slight aside
but has anyone noticed that a USA guy-Eric Bellquist was arrested questioned about a May 2017 incident
A jogger "held his line" and pushed a female pedestrian into the street-
bus barely missed her.
Well a GB based USA born guy-investment banker- was arrested questioned about it.
He -his lawyers-says "not me" I have proof I was not in country at that time
Now the video-decent but not great quality- well it "looks" like him-height weight hair
we will see
They jogger holds his line-the pedestrian she also seems to hold her line-but she does move slightly off line
Jogger-could have moved left-but he pointedly didn't-he also didn't slightly change his line when a male pedestrian passed him-but the pedestrian was farther to his left-so they missed(by less than a foot)
He wasn't texting -he intentionally held his line-seemed to bump push her-she ended up in street

Anyone out there live in-near London-or in GB??
How good are your detectives?
This is a minor crime-no injury-by USA standards-but since it hit the internet-and is sooooooo CS-pushing a woman into the street-
the cops-detectives-must have paid attention-and since it took 3 MONTHS-duh-they must have their man(like your/our canadian cousins-Mounties)
and this guy-MUST have been recognised and promptly ratted out by
people he works with-who hate him
X girlfriend/wife who hates him
X boyfriend/husband who hates him
his friends-who hate him
Anyone who knows him-would know he was a jogger-would know he jogs there-and would know he was a jerk
So if Brit cops question him-
can we reliably assume-it is him??
Have video-have "lots" of people who would have recognized him-probably plenty of people who hate him
so are your cops-GOOD??
They arrested questioned him-here-USA- similar case(our driver) we-they-KNOW it is him-same story London???


If it was me-jogger or pedestrian-I would have changed my line-waaaay early.
Guessing this isn't his first time "at bat"
but he says he has proof "out of country" but cops-must have checked a bit
found out he regularly jogs-there-and he does strongly resemble the jogger(no close up of face)
Rude and foolish people-pedestrian should have moved early-
obviously the jogger-same-and he sure has hell should have pushed her
If he did this-he will have a reputation on that bridge"rude jogger"

phoebeisis

London folks-if your cops arrested him-is it HIM??
Should be an easy case-he would have plenty of associates-who would recognise him
people he works with-X girlfriends wives X boyfriends husbands work associates(who hate him)
My guess-jerk like this-will be hated by everyone he comes in contact with
hell I don't know him-and I hate him from 4000 miles away!!


Update 8-12-17 sunday-
a brit rag called THE GUARDIAN says he-Eric Bellquist has been cleared??
I have no idea how correct this is or isn't.
If it is true-Brit cops are pitiful-arresting the wrong guy when they have 3 months-and video-and many interviews with folks who know him-
amazing 20 years ago-I would have assumed this was "right" now I have no idea-and I have no idea how good or how bad wheat I would have read 20 years ago was-safe bet it was loaded with propaganda-

Prior to his elimination from the investigation, Bellquist’s lawyers, Duncan Lewis Solicitors, said: “Our client has been wrongly implicated in this matter; he categorically denies being the individual concerned and has irrefutable proof that he was in the United States at the time of the incident. Consequently, we expect a swift resolution to this wholly untrue allegation.”

More about: Putney Bridge

JonnyHK 

Odd one.

Victim got a very good look at him and, as you point out, plenty of people would have recognised him and called it in (and he lives nearby too).

However, it is very hard to fake being out of the country.

Perhaps this guy has a doppelgänger?

atbman

The usual phrase is "arrested on suspicion of...". If he had been identified as the jogger, the police would have been justified in making an arrest. They could then question him. His passport would show the evidence of the visa stamped in the USA and he would have been, and was, released.

As for doppelganger, I had one in my old home town (back in the 60s) and we didn't meet for years. We found that mutual acquaintances (not friends) had been mistaking us (at a distance) for yonks Since the dideo wasn't particularly good, the mistaken identity isn't too surprising

AlexanderLS

It's a sad thing that happened no doubt.

That said, how does this relate to cycling? Why should this story be present on a cycling forum?

JonnyHK 

Could just have easily been a cyclist hitting a pedestrian, or a pedestrian pushing a cyclist.

Call it 'general interest'...

Trevtassie

Passorts aren't stamped much any more in first world countries. Coming in and out of Australia, as a citizen I don't even talk to a human, except when I hand over a quarantine card.
So yeah, the dude probably had to jump through a bunch of hoops to get the letter from immigration that showed when he entered and left the country.

phoebeisis

Long story short-she has been paid off-by him-he did it-explains the arrest-the very pointed NO APOLOGY from cops-and the "we plan no further action in respect to him" which is what his lawyers claim-and it explains their "his jogging route is 3 miles from the bridge"-a PLAN B alibi if plan A alibi(out of country) falls through(Oh cops said no such thing when releasing him -"he was out of country so he didn't do it" cops pointedly didn't apologize or clear him)
I'm always suspicious paranoid-so just ignore me-but my guess is he did it-she isn't *****ing because he paid her off-quickly-really tough-impossible- for cops to make case if she won't identify him!

Alexander
Like JonnyHK said could have been cyclist
But it brought to mind the Natchez trace episode
1) caught on video
2) Evildoer-for no apparent reason bumps/dumps someone-a stranger-into a busy highway

Update-for some reason this guys shills have added "and his jogging route is 3 miles from Putney Bridge"
Now I'm suspicious/paranoid-so wondering why in the world they are bothering with this if they have incontrovertible "proof" he was out of the country?
My guess is maybe that proof isn't so good-so the jogging route is a Plan B- just in case

And I 'm wondering where the victim is in all this.
Most folks would be online-telling the story-asking for HELP finding the person who almost killed her?
My guess is she has already been paid off-
1)which explains her not being involved in this investigation(like Jonny said-she got a great look at him)
2) why it took 3 months-she didn't isn't pushing it because she had been "taken care of" very early
3)why the cops arrested this guy-hey they would have showed her pictures of him-but guessing she was deliberately unhelpful
-they arrested him-hoped he would crack-but pointedly DIDN'T say "it isn't him" they said we don't plan further action-no apology etc
Hey aren't London cops supposed to be polite?
No apology-in fact they said "we had reasonable suspicion for an arrest"

No GB cops-really have no great reason to spend much time on a "no injury maybe no crime" crime like this-too busy worrying about bombs-cars runing people down -
Yeah he did it-paid her off-early- cops aren't saying "he didn't do it" his shills got to her-made her happy-
so she isn't complaining about "crummy cops etc"-l

JonnyHK 

It would be up to the cops to check out his story - burden of proof. They could have done it with a phone call.


Police can still charge someone here even without a complaint, so paying someone off doesn't always get you off the hook.

If 30 people thought they recognised him and he lived close the the area, then the police do have reasonable suspicion. They have not done anything 'wrong' if it later turns out not to be him. Apology thus not forthcoming. It's not like the police made an obvious screw up.

mtb_addict

I've watched all the episodes of Prime Suspect...if this guy is really guilty, then he had 3 months to fabricate a really good fake alibi! Plenty of time!!! Since he is wealthy...so has the resources.

JoeyBike

You must be new here. As time goes on the same ol' same ol' goes round and round and round in A&S. I clicked the link just because it was different than "what kind of lights should I buy", or "cyclists get run over by a drunk...again", or "where am I supposed to ride in the lane?", stuff.

Yeah, it was a stretch to post it here but i found it to be a good illustration of how inconsiderate people are in public (which of course I am well aware already) and a good reminder to be ready for anything out there. I was not offended. OP is likely a cyclist posting a safety issue on a bike safety message board. I was not offended.

phoebeisis

JoeyBike
Yep-OP-me-rides everyday-on levee in river ridge-45 minutes then walk Arty(retread greyhound-) for 20 minutes
Yes it was an illustration on how casually inconsiderate/mean/aggressive some folks are.
And it reminded me of the Natchez Trace episode-caught on tape-
An intentional "almost homicide" of a stranger for no reason-odd.

Oh I'm paranoid/suspicious so I'm absolutely certain the victim was paid off months
-this explains her not complaining-no online presence- no friends pushing cops no teary interviews - 3 months-no suspect??
She got 2 really good looks at him-fair chance she tracked him down and they "sorted it out" months ago.

This should be easy to solve-I don't think near middle aged joggers are that common-and they have a picture-height weight hair -
my guess is cops are finished with case-they know they solved it-but victim not co-operating so why bother
besides it might not be a crime-they both held their lines-so....

Sniping

Sad to see people being so rude and impolite to each other out in public like this. Just like how some people love blaring their horns at the smallest minutiae when on the road.

mtb_addict

She could be an immigrant, which explain her unwillingness to come forward, out of fear. He could be those Brixit people, which explain it.

Bus driver should get an award for paying attention and quick rereaction

mr_bill

Uh, whoever it is, far from "holding his line," PUSHED her under the bus. Which is why he, whoever it is, is called the Putney Pusher. The bus operator was having none of that. Which is why, with thankfully MINOR injuries, we know little about the victim.

The rest of the fantasy expressed by the OP and others is completly without evidence and beyond beneath contempt.

This has NOTHING to do with cycling or A&S, and if it belongs anywhere here belongs in the other "&" forum.

-mr. bill

Berg417448

If the police are finished with the case then why did they arrest a 2nd suspect?

Second man questioned and released without charge as police hunt 'Putney pusher'

Clearly they are still looking.

I-Like-To-Bike

Good advice! BTW, you have any connection with Jim Garrison, also of New Orleans?
All the legal training and evidence you need to pass sentece, eh?

I-Like-To-Bike

When you are right, you are right.

KD5NRH

Based on that video, there should only be a couple million people in London who would fit the description.

phoebeisis

Stick a little closer to the truth-I said just that-he pushed her- in my original post
and obviously she wasn't pushed under the bus(thanks to bus driver)
She also foolishly held her line until the last second-not some timid immigrant is my guess.
You do realize this forum is mostly "bicycle riders whining" with some more general whining and insults mixed in?
Entertainment comic relief-they will fill you in on his character defects-
besides this guy is a regular jogger-ran for well over 1/2 hour-
joggers are just like us-same route everyday-1000's of people have seen him-and this won't be his first time at bat.

Oh apparently there is significant ill will between walkers joggers-just like pedestrian/bike rider ill will here-USA.

I can't imagine these cops are so incompetent?
Are they just going to work through all the near middle age males in London?
Gee before you arrest someone-talk to his X- girlfriends X boyfriends

See this is what comes of not being properly armed.
If these Bobbies were strapped-they would get better info


Slight aside
but has anyone noticed that a USA guy-Eric Bellquist was arrested questioned about a May 2017 incident
A jogger "held his line" and pushed a female pedestrian into the street-
bus barely missed her.

phoebeisis

Jim Garrison-also a Mick-O-American-
many years ago-when I was a teenager(1966-1968)-I saw him many times up close-waaaay too close
He was what I call "ONE LOOK CRAZY"
A casual glance was all you needed to tell He was Bat Feces Crazy-
The military booted him for just that-

phoebeisis

Joggers run the same route day after day
just like most riders

The cops saw this as very unimportant-until it hit the internet almost 3 months after event.
They have him on video-there aren't 3 MILLION 30-50yo serious white male joggers who jog Putney Bridge

I-Like-To-Bike

Jim Garrison - an infamous always suspicious paranoid New Orleans guy whose bizarre ranting about other people's guilt and official coverups should be ignored, eh?

phoebeisis

Back when(1960's) Jim Garrison-and most connected $$ NOLA men
belonged to an athletic club-NOAC- NOLA version of NYAC-
This club-all while all male all $$-had a strange marble lined pool they bragged about because it was fed by what they described as an artesian well with grungy salt water(filthy looking)
They had an very very strange rule that you could only swim fully unclothed
Yeah gross flabby old guys paddling around this grungy pool-
Staring at the young "athletic" members(no dues) they allowed in to provide winning athletic teams
Garrison was a member-saw him there-weird SOB-and I would bet Clay Shaw(connected NOLA family) was also a member.

The explanation of the no swimming suits in pool was lame "something about cleaning it"-or suits were unsanitary(held germs)
Not sure if they were trying to imitate some German health clubs that were trying to imitate some ancient Greek ideal
In any case it was weird-
locally it is thought Garrison was scared Shaw was going to rat him out over some sort of *****exual "ring"
Illegal at the time-and underage males might have been involved


More than you wanted to know-Garrison wasn't "just paranoid" he had plenty to hide
he was a judge after he was the DA-not sure if he was appointed or elected-but he must have had the goods on many "someones" to remain in such a powerful position

atbman

[QUOTE=phoebeisis;19793017]Stick a little closer to the truth-I said just that-he pushed her- in my original post
and obviously she wasn't pushed under the bus(thanks to bus driver)
"Held her line"? You mean she was walking along in a normal fashion? Do you seriously think that there is some rule which requires pedestrians to do this? If I see a jogger coming towards me, I have no idea what he's going to do, so I assume that, since he's going faster than me and I'm perfectly visible, he'll go round me. I don't have "a line", I'm just walking along.

Been living, since birth, (77 years ago) in the UK, used to be a runner and I've never heard of any such thing

One assumes that he was originally identified by friends of some variety or another. That's why he was originally arrested, questioned and released having checked up on his US visit. The video doesn't appear to show the runner with crystal clarity, so the police are reliant on members of the public identifying him. Any such person will then be interviewed in much the same way

I take it that this is humorous - even in the States, threatening to shoot a suspect is probably illegal - unless he's black and hasn't yet been arrested