Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Advocacy & Safety Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on every public road, just as do all other users. Discuss your bicycle advocacy and safety concerns here.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-11-17, 07:56 AM   #26
TimothyH
- Soli Deo Gloria -
 
TimothyH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Bikes: 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Posts: 7,502
Mentioned: 78 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2973 Post(s)
Hot pizza?

I rode with a guy, former military, who used to yell, "Check Six!" to pedestrians as if people understood what he was talking about. It took me a while to figure it out.


-Tim-
TimothyH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-17, 08:10 AM   #27
adablduya
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 258
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1989Pre View Post
Sometimes, the choir needs to hear it, too. I dislike having to move for cyclists while I am hiking on a single-track trail, but if they meet me half-way by calling out, I suppose I'll budge.
However, "on your left" means (or is supposed to mean) "I have enough room to get by on your left if you maintain your present direction". It is not supposed to mean "Get out of my way".
I do not ride bikes in the woods. The woods is my church.
well, that's very nice of you to "budge" on a SHARED trail. i do agree with you, however, in your belief of what "on your left" means.
adablduya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-17, 08:13 AM   #28
adablduya
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 258
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Ignore him. More of his trolling.
that's the best you can come up with ?
adablduya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-17, 08:16 AM   #29
jimincalif
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Bikes: '96 Trek 850, '08 Specialized Roubaix Comp
Posts: 1,158
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 203 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
His quotes reported in the press are unbelievable; I'd think he was putting on a parody except that it will cost him, if the lady pursues it.
Clearly he did not obtain legal counsel before talking to the press. He incriminates him self in the first sentence of his own Facebook post.


Last edited by jimincalif; 10-11-17 at 08:23 AM.
jimincalif is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-17, 08:30 AM   #30
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 14,775
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3716 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by adablduya View Post
that's the best you can come up with ?
I smell a dirty sock.
Welcome to my iggy list.
indyfabz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-17, 09:13 AM   #31
jefnvk
Senior Member
 
jefnvk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Metro Detroit
Bikes: Novara Mazama
Posts: 5,436
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2097 Post(s)
Hope she takes him to the cleaner and gets his bikes in the process.

Can't stand folks who think MUPs are their personal race tracks. Yes, there are plenty of places it is safe for me to get up to 25MPH on mine, likewise there are plenty of places I better be slowed down and riding through congestion very carefully. If you want to go balls out all the time, get on the road. No, pedestrians do not always react as I would expect, regardless of yelling "on your left", my preferred "coming up behind you" when I don't have a bell, or apparently "hot pizza". It is my job to work my way around them safely, regardless of how much I think they may be in the wrong or may be holding me up.
jefnvk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-17, 10:06 AM   #32
adablduya
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 258
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I smell a dirty sock.
Welcome to my iggy list.
just when i thought your quips couldn't be any less intelligent, you prove me wrong. nice.
adablduya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-17, 10:19 AM   #33
Paul Barnard
For The Fun of It
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Louisissippi Coast
Bikes: Garage full of bikes
Posts: 2,425
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 178 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
She probably turned right into his path.
The very reason I pass with minimal speed differential and communicate my intentions very clearly.
Paul Barnard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-17, 10:44 AM   #34
Worknomore
Senior Member
 
Worknomore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SE Michigan
Bikes: Serotta CRL, Litespeed Blue Ridge, Bacchetta Ti Aero, Cannondale delta V, 67 Schwinn Sting Ray stick shift.
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Notice how mr tough guy cyclists only runs over little old ladies.
Classic bully. Needs and will get his due some day.
Worknomore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-17, 05:09 PM   #35
squirtdad
Senior Member
 
squirtdad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Bikes: '89 Miyata 1400, '82 nishiski, 84 Torpado super strada (Cino someday)
Posts: 4,661
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 206 Post(s)
I ride a busy MUP on my commute home (Los Gatos creek trail). I can some times go at the 15 mph limit, but often slow way down for the various less observant denizens of the trail.....of which there are many. I can go fast or I can do my best to prevent a collision....I chose the later. Only person i have really yelled at was woman who multiple times let her little, hyper uncontrolled docs off leash.

MUP is multple use...not bike focused, bikes are just another user
__________________
Looking for Torpado Superlight 58cm
squirtdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 05:17 AM   #36
IndianaRecRider 
LET'S RIDE!!
 
IndianaRecRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: In A House, On A Hill
Bikes: 2013 Fuji Absolute 1.4
Posts: 1,541
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 129 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coasterbrakefan View Post
Buy. A. Bell!
And what the flip does "hot pizza" mean? Loser.
+1

First I've ever heard of this term being used in place of "on your left" or any other type of warning.

He says he called out "hot pizza" and that people usually smile and look back to see where the statement came from, but if he was speeding like he implied he was ("I hate to slow down"), perhaps folks may not have time to look back before they're plowed into by idiotic cyclists.

Yes, 'loser' fits him perfectly.




__________________
Cycling.....if you're not having fun, you're definitely doing it wrong!!

My YouTube channel...https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrH...JFZE5QA/videos

My Blog...https://adamscyclingmusings.wordpress.com

IndianaRecRider is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 09:05 AM   #37
Happy Feet
Senior Member
 
Happy Feet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Bikes:
Posts: 1,667
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 477 Post(s)
I'm 53, have been riding since I was 8, commute, touring and even a bike courier and I did not know what "hot pizza" meant until today. I don't want people to look back at me wondering what's going on; I want them to move to the right.

I also think derriere chapeau is my new favorite term
Happy Feet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 09:19 AM   #38
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 14,775
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3716 Post(s)
Seems as if "hot pizza" is a random term he picked because "on your left" sometimes results in people moving to the left, which is something I have encountered numerous times. He could have easily picked something like "pink elephants."


With that said, the guy reminds me of the dude who mowed down the female pedestrian in CA because he was trying to set a new record and didn't want to stop for the light or whatever because he was trying for a new PB. He also posted on social media after the incident.


I am glad my parents raised me to not put my personal interests above the health and well being of others.
indyfabz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 09:50 AM   #39
jefnvk
Senior Member
 
jefnvk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Metro Detroit
Bikes: Novara Mazama
Posts: 5,436
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2097 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Seems as if "hot pizza" is a random term he picked because "on your left" sometimes results in people moving to the left, which is something I have encountered numerous times. He could have easily picked something like "pink elephants."
Agreed. It is nothing more than nonsense to get someone's attention.

Also agreed with the others that said that doesn't work if you are traveling at such a speed that one doesn't have time to turn around, analyze what is going on, and get out of your way, if they even bother. The right of way says you have to avoid them, they do not have to yield to you.

It is why I am always monitoring my speed and figuring out how to safely get around people if they don't respond to my audible passing signals. Sometimes, that involves slowing to a crawl and waiting a few seconds.
jefnvk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 10:09 AM   #40
rm -rf
don't try this at home.
 
rm -rf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: N. KY
Bikes:
Posts: 4,362
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 336 Post(s)
Gee, what a dumbass.

Do this instead. (and he's going just slightly faster than the walkers).
The NYC bridge singer:
rm -rf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 10:40 AM   #41
FBinNY 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Posts: 34,985
Mentioned: 100 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3405 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Seems as if "hot pizza" is a random term he picked because "on your left" sometimes results in people moving to the left, which is something I have encountered numerous times. He could have easily picked something like "pink elephants."....
The reference to pizza brings back memories. Way back when I was getting rescue training we practiced scenarios in public areas. Part of the drill involved calling delegating someone to call 911 as you attended to the victim. Since we were surrounded by people we couldn't just scream "call 911" since someone might actually do so. So training code for "call 911" was "order a pizza".

Back to the MUP. I don't always call out if there's enough room to pass safely. When I do call out, I say "bicycle behind you" or "bicycle passing", letting the people know I'm there and giving them the choice of what to do about it.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

“Never argue with an idiot. He will only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.”, George Carlin

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 11:17 AM   #42
TenSpeedV2
Senior Member
 
TenSpeedV2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Bikes: Felt TK2, Felt Z5
Posts: 4,177
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 832 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
As I say too often, bicycles are to pedestrians as cars are to bicycles.

I don't like to have drivers honk, insisting I move out of their way. So, I don't demand that pedestrians move out of mine.

It's always nicer if people make room for me to pass, but they're not obligated to do so, and just like on the road, the burden is on the passing vehicle.

Interestingly, the cyclist's excuse was a weak hand owing to a prior crash. So not only is he an axehole, he's also a slow learner. Hopefully being made to pay his victim's medical bills will help.
I feel the exact same way, which is why I do not, and will not use a bell on any of my bikes. I will call out to you pleasantly if I am going to be passing you, but there will be no airhorn or shrill bell to scare the hell out of you and possibly make you jump directly into my path.
TenSpeedV2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 11:32 AM   #43
jimincalif
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Bikes: '96 Trek 850, '08 Specialized Roubaix Comp
Posts: 1,158
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 203 Post(s)
Calling out "on your left/right", "hot pizza", "bike", ringing bells - or not, walking on the left against traffic, walking on the right with traffic, plugged in with headphones, children, pets, etc., the problem is there isn't a commonly understood expectation of behavior and interactions by users of MUPs. Many, if not most, suffer from a serious lack of situational awareness, all of which makes MUP users somewhat unpredictable. This makes MUPs dangerous for riders who want to go fast and aren't willing to slow down as needed.
jimincalif is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 11:35 AM   #44
mr_bill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Massachusetts
Bikes:
Posts: 2,112
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 602 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimincalif View Post
This makes MUPs dangerous for riders who want to go fast and aren't willing to slow down as needed.
MUPs aren't usually dangerous.

People riding bikes on MUPs on the other hand may be quite dangerous.

-mr. bill
mr_bill is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 12:48 PM   #45
Moose
mousse de chocolat
 
Moose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Northeast Ohio, USA
Bikes: Masi Speciale Fixed, Soma Competition, Giant Defy Advanced, Salsa Chili Con Crosso
Posts: 1,149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
"Hot Pizza" comes from the restaurant biz... it means "I am carrying a hot plate of dough and cheese, please step aside...".

I worked in retail for years and used this term often as a fun way to let customers or coworkers know I was coming through. I even adapted it myself on the local bike trails.

That said, the jerky behaviour of this guy has completely ruined it for me, from now on I don't suppose I will be comfortable saying it on the trail.
__________________
I feel more like I do now than when I first got here.
Moose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 12:51 PM   #46
elocs
Señor Member
 
elocs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Bikes:
Posts: 319
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post

Back to the MUP. I don't always call out if there's enough room to pass safely.
Me neither. After watching someone walking ahead of me on a MUP and seeing them stay strictly on the right I will pass them on the far left at a reduced speed. The same is true when they happen to look back before I even reach them because they know I'm coming.
Otherwise, it's the ice cream truck bell and if they choose to ignore it or are wearing ear buds then it's the horn.
I still pass with care though.

In my area there is a MUP that goes under a bridge with an incline on each side as well as a blind curve. I slow down and sound my horn before going under bridge in case anyone is under the bridge and then sound it immediately again in case anybody is about to come down that I can't see.
elocs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 06:05 PM   #47
Coasterbrakefan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Bikes:
Posts: 85
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm -rf View Post
Gee, what a dumbass.

Do this instead. (and he's going just slightly faster than the walkers).
The NYC bridge singer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3zn5dQiOEw
OMG that was hilarious!
Coasterbrakefan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 06:48 PM   #48
Hoopdriver
On Holiday
 
Hoopdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Monkey Bottom, NC
Bikes: A bunch of old steel bikes
Posts: 171
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
"Moms with strollers" are a problem?! For me that's a cue to slow to walking speed. What a prat.
Hoopdriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 07:03 PM   #49
WNCGoater
Senior Member
 
WNCGoater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Western NC mountains
Bikes: Specialized Rockhopper Comp. Diamondback Century 3
Posts: 336
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 96 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm -rf View Post
Gee, what a dumbass.

Do this instead. (and he's going just slightly faster than the walkers).
The NYC bridge singer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3zn5dQiOEw
My gosh how do people live like that?
WNCGoater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-17, 10:47 PM   #50
Gresp15C
Senior Member
 
Gresp15C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Bikes:
Posts: 1,527
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 203 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53 View Post
Another moron who won't use a bell ... Pffft
I'm reminded of an old cartoon with the caption: "Fix my horn, my brakes don't work."
Gresp15C is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:39 AM.


 
  • Ask a Question
    get answers from real people!
Click to start entering your question.
I HAVE A QUESTION