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Old 10-10-17, 02:08 PM   #1
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Cyclist Yells "Hot Pizza", Hits Pedestrian

Spokane woman is standing up to cyclist who yelled ‘Hot pizza!’ then smashed into her on trail:

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“So first ride without the brace and some pedestrian wouldn’t move!!" so he hits her? that is so messed up
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Old 10-10-17, 03:32 PM   #3
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So he hates to slow down. Nice. Hope she takes him to the cleaners.
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She probably turned right into his path.

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His self-entitlement gives cyclists a bad name.
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As I say too often, bicycles are to pedestrians as cars are to bicycles.

I don't like to have drivers honk, insisting I move out of their way. So, I don't demand that pedestrians move out of mine.

It's always nicer if people make room for me to pass, but they're not obligated to do so, and just like on the road, the burden is on the passing vehicle.

Interestingly, the cyclist's excuse was a weak hand owing to a prior crash. So not only is he an axehole, he's also a slow learner. Hopefully being made to pay his victim's medical bills will help.
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That's the sort of dickishness that makes us all look bad. I see near misses by cyclists like that nearly every time I ride the MUP (which is less often all the time -- I use the MUP only when it's the most expedient route, not the fastest). Brush-by passes at 15-20 mph inches away from pedestrians and other cyclists.

Much of our MUP is only a 4 foot wide sidewalk, just suitable for casual cyclists who can barely cope with safely passing people traveling a single direction, let alone oncoming traffic. It's a sidewalk. It's not a proper multi-use path for cyclists. We expect a 3 foot buffer from vehicles on the streets, but cannot practice the same courtesy toward pedestrians on a 4' wide sidewalk/MUP. The best we can do is slow down and pass just slightly faster than walking or jogging pace.

Occasionally I see older folks on canes, walkers, in wheelchairs and riding pedicabs. Frankly I'd advise against using the MUP to my older family members and friends. It isn't safe, especially for folks with balance problems who are easily startled. It's absolutely no different from sharing a city sidewalk with kids on skateboards, inline skaters and bicycles, which is usually prohibited. If anything our typical city sidewalks are wider and more navigable than most of the MUP.
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Twenty five broken bones and considers it a good day when he doesn't have an accident. He probably considers himself to be a talented cyclist too. I notice the same tendency in the reckless drivers I know. They drive like maniacs, get in a lot of accidents and always think it's the other's fault. Someone should take his bike away from him. He's a danger to himself and others.
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I'd expect he's equally obnoxious in other facets of his life. I'm sure a lot of folks are pulling for his victim to nail him in a civil suit.
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She probably turned right into his path.

so what ? he was approaching from behind, which means, HE DID NOT ANY RIGHT OF WAY.

plus, the fact he has 25 broken bone injuries from riding says all you need to know about his cycling skills ....
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I despise morons who think they are too cool to say "on your left"!

When you are really concerned that they aren't going to move I've found it helps to say, nice and loud from a ways back "Bike coming through on your left!" And then you just have to slow down! (I know I'm preaching to the choir here.)
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I despise morons who think they are too cool to say "on your left"!

When you are really concerned that they aren't going to move I've found it helps to say, nice and loud from a ways back "Bike coming through on your left!" And then you just have to slow down! (I know I'm preaching to the choir here.)
This isn't about saying "on your left" or anything, but about giving people a reasonable amount of time to move. AND understanding that they have no obligation to do so.

It's good that nobody here is making excuses for this jerk, but anyone thinking that it might be OK if he gave proper warning, should consider what they'd think if a motorist honked then proceeded to hit them.

As I said, his prior accident rate proves he's a slow learner, I hope a stinging civil award helps him get it.
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I despise morons who think they are too cool to say "on your left"!

When you are really concerned that they aren't going to move I've found it helps to say, nice and loud from a ways back "Bike coming through on your left!" And then you just have to slow down! (I know I'm preaching to the choir here.)
Sometimes, the choir needs to hear it, too. I dislike having to move for cyclists while I am hiking on a single-track trail, but if they meet me half-way by calling out, I suppose I'll budge.
However, "on your left" means (or is supposed to mean) "I have enough room to get by on your left if you maintain your present direction". It is not supposed to mean "Get out of my way".
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His self-entitlement gives cyclists a bad name.
There are many things cyclists do that gives all cyclists a bad name.
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However, "on your left" means (or is supposed to mean) "I have enough room to get by on your left if you maintain your present direction".
When I ride on a MUP or the sidewalk (legal in my city) if there is somebody on foot ahead of me I will watch them and if they are sticking closely to the right I will slow down and pass them slowly on the far left if it is a person alone. If there is more than 1 I will sound my ice cream truck bell which gives a friendly warning. If that doesn't work I have a battery operated horn that will get their attention.
Oddly, even though my bike is quiet, often people will suddenly look back before I ever get to them. If they know I'm coming close behind I don't worry about giving a warning.
My pet peeve though is that although over 90% of people walking or jogging will keep to the right the rest insist on being on the left side. In that case I appear distracted and don't see them and it never fails that before I reach them they decide to move to the right.
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Yes the cyclist sounds like a jerk, but the pedestrian made an interesting comment as well:
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and he even could have veered off onto Nettleton and had the street all to himself.
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Another moron who won't use a bell ... Pffft
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So, as long as he had a bell and rang it, then he's OK hitting anyone who didn't move fast enough?

It's not about warning by bell, horn or shout. It's about recognizing that anyone occupying a spot of pavement has first dibs on it, and is under no obligation to jump off it as you come through.

Either ride slower, or learn how to safely swing around people.
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My what a lot of angst over a man-bites dog story. Ah well, it's better than yet another dog-bites man story, which are happening daily.

The rider is a derriere chapeau on a bike. He's probably a derriere chapeu in many aspects of his life. However, being on a bike didn't make him one. I'm afraid I can't say the same thing about people who drive.
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“I hate to slow down,” the cyclist said when asked why he didn’t. “Most of the time people move. These people wouldn’t move,” he added, noting that moms with strollers were part of the problem, too.
That's cold.


Basic right-of-way rules on waterways cover that sort of lunacy. There is nothing that should protect a fast-moving person coming up from behind, above the right of the person ahead to not get struck. Except in cases where the person ahead (in this case, the pedestrian) deliberately swerves into the path and deliberately causes the crash.

In this case, just based on the cyclist's attitude and statements, it sure seems the cyclist was speeding along without an ounce of concern for slower-moving people who might get struck from behind. Instead, the cyclist apparently demanded everyone "clear a path" and get out of "his way." Right.

I'd stand up to that crap, as well.
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So he hates to slow down. Nice. Hope she takes him to the cleaners.
Except for pedestrians, I hate to slow down. But I am always on the road, not the trails. I agree w/ you. I hope she takes him to the cleaners'.
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Buy. A. Bell!
And what the flip does "hot pizza" mean? Loser.
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so what ? he was approaching from behind, which means, HE DID NOT ANY RIGHT OF WAY.

Ignore him. More of his trolling.
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Hates to slow down on the pedestrian path, rides fast and can't stop because his hand is broken. He thinks it's your fault if you don't jump out of his way. It sounds exactly like the track bike guy in England who just got convicted for "furious driving" or some such after hitting a young woman.

His quotes reported in the press are unbelievable; I'd think he was putting on a parody except that it will cost him, if the lady pursues it.
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