The Gaman Spirit: Why Cycling Works in Tokyo
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The Gaman Spirit: Why Cycling Works in Tokyo
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14% of trips in Tokyo are on bike. That's tremendous. They do this with almost bicycle infrastructure.
14% of trips in Tokyo are on bike. That's tremendous. They do this with almost bicycle infrastructure.
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Where are the cars?
Most of the scenes were of cyclists riding in places were cars were completely absent, and with relatively light pedestrian traffic.
With that said, I would certainly enjoy getting around by bike in Tokyo, and maybe there are some things for us to learn from them.
Edit: I don't want to make excuses for the situation here in the US, like: "Well, they have it easy because it's this way or that way." It was a great video and a reminder that there's more than one way to make a city bike friendly. Thanks for posting it.
Most of the scenes were of cyclists riding in places were cars were completely absent, and with relatively light pedestrian traffic.
With that said, I would certainly enjoy getting around by bike in Tokyo, and maybe there are some things for us to learn from them.
Edit: I don't want to make excuses for the situation here in the US, like: "Well, they have it easy because it's this way or that way." It was a great video and a reminder that there's more than one way to make a city bike friendly. Thanks for posting it.
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I'm in favour of cycling infrastructure anywhere, but the idea that mass cycling starts with the infrastructure just isn't right. I don't believe it ever did anywhere, first there are the cyclists claiming the road, and the infrastructure follows.
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Great and super interesting video Tom. I think the young woman was right. If people were kinder to each other, cycling would be a better experience. This is the main reason I like living where I do. It is not Tokyo but cycling is common enough so that motorists are more aware of bikes and willing to make allowances.
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@berner, I've noticed a big increase in kindness on the streets of NYC, which is pretty surprising considering we're generally loud mouthed and impatient. But we've reached a certain kind of critical mass with bikes on the streets, and it's clear enough to motorists that we are here to stay. It's clear enough they have to watch for us and take precautions. Most streets in Manhattan are one-way. The bike lane is on the left, to avoid conflicts with buses. Some intersections have separate signals for bike lanes and the rest of traffic, and some don't. When someone wants to cross the bike lane and turn left in front of me, if there is enough space and time, I'll move to the right, behind them. I pass them on the right so they can make their left turns. They tend to wait for me to pass them on the left, because that's what most cyclists do. So it shows consideration and a trained response. I used to see taxi drivers as the rudest drivers, since they are out for themselves, everyone else be damned. But now they are better to me than regular drivers, since they are out there all the time and deal with us cyclists a lot.
@Gresp15C, small streets are really annoying to drive a car on, and with the high cost of driving in Tokyo, it doesn't make sense to drive on those streets. Small streets were made for pedestrians and carts, and now they're for pedestrians and cyclists.
@Stadjer, interesting that you say that, because a lot of the Dutch narrative claims that cycling was revived because of advocacy for bike infrastructure in the early 1970s. Your point of view is more like mine, and the NYC experience might prove it. It's hard to be sure of cause and effect.
@Gresp15C, small streets are really annoying to drive a car on, and with the high cost of driving in Tokyo, it doesn't make sense to drive on those streets. Small streets were made for pedestrians and carts, and now they're for pedestrians and cyclists.
@Stadjer, interesting that you say that, because a lot of the Dutch narrative claims that cycling was revived because of advocacy for bike infrastructure in the early 1970s. Your point of view is more like mine, and the NYC experience might prove it. It's hard to be sure of cause and effect.
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I don't know if building more bike-centric infrastructure would help or hurt the cycling experience in Tokyo, but everybody interviewed seems like very nice people to share a city with.
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@berner, I've noticed a big increase in kindness on the streets of NYC, which is pretty surprising considering we're generally loud mouthed and impatient. But we've reached a certain kind of critical mass with bikes on the streets, and it's clear enough to motorists that we are here to stay. It's clear enough they have to watch for us and take precautions. Most streets in Manhattan are one-way. The bike lane is on the left, to avoid conflicts with buses. Some intersections have separate signals for bike lanes and the rest of traffic, and some don't. When someone wants to cross the bike lane and turn left in front of me, if there is enough space and time, I'll move to the right, behind them. I pass them on the right so they can make their left turns. They tend to wait for me to pass them on the left, because that's what most cyclists do. So it shows consideration and a trained response. I used to see taxi drivers as the rudest drivers, since they are out for themselves, everyone else be damned. But now they are better to me than regular drivers, since they are out there all the time and deal with us cyclists a lot.
@Gresp15C, small streets are really annoying to drive a car on, and with the high cost of driving in Tokyo, it doesn't make sense to drive on those streets. Small streets were made for pedestrians and carts, and now they're for pedestrians and cyclists.
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Wherever streets are small, things work this way, and it's surprisingly pleasant. You'd think you need big avenues to move volumes of traffic, but if you have a hierarchy of roads and vehicles, it works just as well, and then on small streets, you have people interacting with each other, and they tend to be kinder interactions.
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@Stadjer, interesting that you say that, because a lot of the Dutch narrative claims that cycling was revived because of advocacy for bike infrastructure in the early 1970s. Your point of view is more like mine, and the NYC experience might prove it. It's hard to be sure of cause and effect.
But what's cycling infrastructure? A reasonably smooth road or street and I can cycle on it, so you could consider that cycling infrastructure. From a city planning perspective it all started in the City where I live now, with limiting the city centre to destination traffic for cars, and forbidding drivers to use it as part of their route to somewhere else. That limited the number of cars just because drivers would avoid the labyrinth, and the cyclists found themselves to be the dominant majority on the streets there. But there were already children claiming the streets, cyclists ready to claim any space they could get, and the alt left was squatting to claim old buildings for living space and prevent demolition to make space for car friendly developments.
Infrastructure made it such a success, but it shouldn't be misrepresented as government starting it top down by painting cycle lanes and installing rain sensitive traffic lights. Cycling infrastructure wasn't offered, it was demanded. That's why it doesn't really surprise me that it's New York where it's moving in the right direction, you need a bit of a 'what you gonna do? Run me over?'-attitude. From a position of strength you can negotiate and go easy on the drivers. The meek won't inherit a cycling city.
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Thank you, as always, @Stadjer. That "famous" video about Groningen has inspired so many ideas for me. Closing off streets is counter-intuitive to so many, especially here in the US (and probably Canada, too). Where there is a lot of traffic, it seems that the right thing is to maximize throughput with things like adding lanes, lengthening the light cycle of the heavily-trafficked street. But now we are learning that reducing motor traffic and increasing pedestrian traffic, merchants are elated with their increased business. Besides, the space becomes so much more pleasant.
Manhattan is a mess. Traffic here has been horrendous for generations. And it's worse in recent years, by a lot. My vision is everyone else's nightmare. Build a super highway around the perimeter and make it expensive or illegal to drive on local streets. Ramps from the highway should be few and not accessible from every damned cross street. Have lots of parking right near the ramps. Offer plentiful buses and other ways of getting from those garages to the center of the island.
I wish I had access to a traffic and design simulator to make my points.
Manhattan is a mess. Traffic here has been horrendous for generations. And it's worse in recent years, by a lot. My vision is everyone else's nightmare. Build a super highway around the perimeter and make it expensive or illegal to drive on local streets. Ramps from the highway should be few and not accessible from every damned cross street. Have lots of parking right near the ramps. Offer plentiful buses and other ways of getting from those garages to the center of the island.
I wish I had access to a traffic and design simulator to make my points.
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Thank you, as always, @Stadjer. That "famous" video about Groningen has inspired so many ideas for me. Closing off streets is counter-intuitive to so many, especially here in the US (and probably Canada, too). Where there is a lot of traffic, it seems that the right thing is to maximize throughput with things like adding lanes, lengthening the light cycle of the heavily-trafficked street.
But now we are learning that reducing motor traffic and increasing pedestrian traffic, merchants are elated with their increased business. Besides, the space becomes so much more pleasant.
Manhattan is a mess. Traffic here has been horrendous for generations. And it's worse in recent years, by a lot. My vision is everyone else's nightmare. Build a super highway around the perimeter and make it expensive or illegal to drive on local streets. Ramps from the highway should be few and not accessible from every damned cross street. Have lots of parking right near the ramps. Offer plentiful buses and other ways of getting from those garages to the center of the island.
I wish I had access to a traffic and design simulator to make my points.
I wish I had access to a traffic and design simulator to make my points.
What Barcelona is doing right now, or at least was before the independency struggles, is very interesting but has a lot to do with how the blocks were designed in the late 19th century. Ghent in Belgium has recently done something simular to the 'traffic circulation plan' that started things off in Groningen, but that was already one the more cycling friendly cities of Belgium, still getting drivers angry at first was part of the deal.
Maybe the regular grid of NY offers it's own possibilities, like every other street prioritizes bicycles and pedestrians where cars only have 'guest use' with one way traffic for cars, vehicular cycling and adapted speeds, and the others prioritize car traffic and cyclists only have a cycling lane. That would split cars and cyclists except for the ones that have their destination in a specific street. The character of the car low streets will change for the better, and the number of cycling streets can increase.
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Very interesting thoughts, @Stadjer. Thanks.
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Cycling freedom. We have that here in Milton Keynes, we can ride anywhere.
We don't represent 14% of journeys, though. The road system is subsequently short of cyclists, as we prefer the pavements, so people love being able to use their cars properly here - it's great for motorists so the car is king.
We don't represent 14% of journeys, though. The road system is subsequently short of cyclists, as we prefer the pavements, so people love being able to use their cars properly here - it's great for motorists so the car is king.
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Yeah, thousands of bikes around. Parking can be a little crazy if you are a foreigner also. The council can take your bike if parked in the wrong place or short term.
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@Tomodachi, is that your video?
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14% of trips in Tokyo are on bike. That's tremendous. They do this with almost bicycle infrastructure.
14% of trips in Tokyo are on bike. That's tremendous. They do this with almost bicycle infrastructure.
Streets to the east of the Heisei emperor's palace are often shut down for cycling traffic, though, and you'll occasionally see people riding pretty fast there. Cycling as we know it here tends to occur mainly in the countryside (Chiba and to the west of Yokohama).
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Cycling in Tokyo was great compared to Sydney, one huge difference was the thousands of people everywhere as well as other riders. But absolutely loved it.
Some night riding in Kabukicho Shinjuku area.
Some night riding in Kabukicho Shinjuku area.
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You seem very skilled at dodging people. I would hate to cycle with so many pedestrians around.
I would definitely opt for the Ben-Hur scythed hubs.
I would definitely opt for the Ben-Hur scythed hubs.
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Just back from Taipei (the Amsterdam for Vespa lovers).
But the transformation of bicycling in Taipei *is* being led by "the meek."
It's hard to separate the two big changes, since they both happened at about the same time.
YouBike (thank you Giant) shared bike system lets people ride without worrying about their bike. It's about half the cost of the MRT and gets you there in about the same amount of time. It's one of the most used bike share systems in the world.
And the widening of the pavements (sidewalks) into shared bike/pedestrian paths on the large stroads has CONNECTED the city for "the meek."
Taipei always had the lovely small streets (where people walk, ride, and drive in the street - slowly), and the larger vibrant city two-lane roads, were it's very comfortable for all to ride. And all ages have always ridden there.
But so many stroads (usually multilane boulevards) cutting every which way through the city isolated these bicycling paradises. Even though most of these stroads have low effective speeds (scooters are usually the fastest vehicles) these were definitely NOT comfortable for many people to ride a bicycle on. So "the meek" illegally rode on the pavements - slowly.
So, two small changes made it a city for "the meek." YouBike, and legal pavement riding.
And the strong followed.
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But the transformation of bicycling in Taipei *is* being led by "the meek."
It's hard to separate the two big changes, since they both happened at about the same time.
YouBike (thank you Giant) shared bike system lets people ride without worrying about their bike. It's about half the cost of the MRT and gets you there in about the same amount of time. It's one of the most used bike share systems in the world.
And the widening of the pavements (sidewalks) into shared bike/pedestrian paths on the large stroads has CONNECTED the city for "the meek."
Taipei always had the lovely small streets (where people walk, ride, and drive in the street - slowly), and the larger vibrant city two-lane roads, were it's very comfortable for all to ride. And all ages have always ridden there.
But so many stroads (usually multilane boulevards) cutting every which way through the city isolated these bicycling paradises. Even though most of these stroads have low effective speeds (scooters are usually the fastest vehicles) these were definitely NOT comfortable for many people to ride a bicycle on. So "the meek" illegally rode on the pavements - slowly.
So, two small changes made it a city for "the meek." YouBike, and legal pavement riding.
And the strong followed.
-mr. bill
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Did you hear the woman at 6:17 say she got rid of her car because she didn't want to cause accidents?
Most people in North America when trying to convince you not to cycle don't say they don't want to cause accidents. They usually say it's safer being in an accident - sort of like implying they don't mind causing and being in them.
To the people who say Tokyo (and Amsterdam and etc...) is flat, well I don't know of any city intentionally built on a side of any hill or mountain. When cities grow, they engulf local hills.
To the people who say you don't need infrastructure to cycle, that's true. But you need infrastructure if you want to attract more cyclists when you have a traffic congestion problem.
Most people in North America when trying to convince you not to cycle don't say they don't want to cause accidents. They usually say it's safer being in an accident - sort of like implying they don't mind causing and being in them.
To the people who say Tokyo (and Amsterdam and etc...) is flat, well I don't know of any city intentionally built on a side of any hill or mountain. When cities grow, they engulf local hills.
To the people who say you don't need infrastructure to cycle, that's true. But you need infrastructure if you want to attract more cyclists when you have a traffic congestion problem.
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But so many stroads (usually multilane boulevards) cutting every which way through the city isolated these bicycling paradises. Even though most of these stroads have low effective speeds (scooters are usually the fastest vehicles) these were definitely NOT comfortable for many people to ride a bicycle on. So "the meek" illegally rode on the pavements - slowly.
So, two small changes made it a city for "the meek." YouBike, and legal pavement riding.
And the strong followed.
-mr. bill
So, two small changes made it a city for "the meek." YouBike, and legal pavement riding.
And the strong followed.
-mr. bill
Agree. Amsterdam is pretty rainy, very windy, often cold and full of steep bridges. It's sinking so a lot of streets are brick or cobblestone. Not beeing on the side of mountain just like most cities in the world is about the only thing it has going for mass cycling. For countryside cycling they have a point, but often it seems more like a big difference needs one simple explanation.