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The Real Cost of Driving

Old 07-24-02, 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Andy Dreisch

Chris L, please comment on the relatively recent onset of increased child obesity and the prevelance of the automobile, which has been a factor for decades.
When I was a kid growing up in the 80s at Werris Creek, we generally walked or cycled wherever we needed to go. Contrast that with the decision most parents make to drive their children everywhere they need to go these days, and you have the perfect environment for child obesity.

Again, this is like the whole "so you wanna ban cars" argument. Nobody ever suggested that, it's just a question of degree. Yes, automobiles have been around for years, but it's only in relatively recent times they have been used as an alternative to children using their legs occasionally.
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Old 07-24-02, 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Andy Dreisch
Yes, I suppose we can all agree to disagree. Let's let this interminable thread die.

But! You still seem to have misunderstood my central point. That is (once again): even with all the calamitous by-products of the automobile (as you have stated above ... and for which I AGREE at least in part ), it's still not so bad as to be challenged with a viable alternative. And bicycles, my friend, are not a viable alternative to cars for an overwhelming segment of the population.
Has anyone seriously looked at the effect of advertising on people's behaviour here? I mean let's be honest, the majority of the population can't even imagine the possibility that someone like me can live quite happily and successfully without even needing to own a car. Many of them seem to think that I am either:

1. trying to push some kind of social cause

2. too lazy to get a licence

3. too poor to own a car

4. some other reason from fantasy-land that suggests the only reason I don't drive is because I can't.

Let's face it, much of it boils down to hype, and until people realise that it is actually possible to satisfy all of one's transport needs without a car (and no, I don't have someone else to "bail me out" with their car either), and that they might actually enjoy it, we will all be pushing sh*t up a hill.

And now, as Andy said, Off with this thread.
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