Sidewalk/sidepath riding... a different view.
07-26-19, 06:09 PM
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This from some one who thinks 'not really" and "almost" are the same thing.
What is the purpose of the "legal requirements"?
If it is "not even close" close to the "minimum requirements", it's suggesting that it isn't a good place to ride (at 20+ mph!)
If it is "not even close" close to the "minimum requirements", it's dumb to complain that somebody isn't using it.
???
What is the purpose of the "legal requirements"?
If it is "not even close" close to the "minimum requirements", it's suggesting that it isn't a good place to ride (at 20+ mph!)
If it is "not even close" close to the "minimum requirements", it's dumb to complain that somebody isn't using it.
???
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07-26-19, 06:35 PM
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Just wondering, since you could see yourself averaging at least 20 on that flat of a surface.
When you come up to the area with those terrifying driveways, you can't see yourself doing something simple like applying the brakes and slowing down? So that in the unlikely event a car pulled out of the driveway while you were going by, *YOU* could stop?
And once you've passed that small cluster of terrifying hazards of a few blind driveways, and then picking up the pace again?
Think of it as interval training?
Or think of it as entering a feed zone?
Or maybe just think of riding at a speed safe for current conditions?
Instead of averaging at least 20 mph, you'd be averaging at least 19 mph instead?
-mr. bill
When you come up to the area with those terrifying driveways, you can't see yourself doing something simple like applying the brakes and slowing down? So that in the unlikely event a car pulled out of the driveway while you were going by, *YOU* could stop?
And once you've passed that small cluster of terrifying hazards of a few blind driveways, and then picking up the pace again?
Think of it as interval training?
Or think of it as entering a feed zone?
Or maybe just think of riding at a speed safe for current conditions?
Instead of averaging at least 20 mph, you'd be averaging at least 19 mph instead?
-mr. bill
07-27-19, 10:02 AM
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...So it seems to IGNORE implies more abhorrence, than simply DNR (Did Not Read), and how does the Ignored One learn of his Status?
Personally, I don’t ignore anyone:
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After about 10 years here I have my preferences (and my own choices for the ones I consider “pills,” who are nonetheless fun to read).
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07-27-19, 10:05 AM
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07-27-19, 04:01 PM
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07-27-19, 05:26 PM
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FWIW, I posted a couple weeks ago
...So it seems to IGNORE implies more abhorrence, than simply DNR (Did Not Read), and how does the Ignored One learn of his Status?
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07-29-19, 04:40 PM
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Bottom line, cycling can be dangerous anywhere you are on two wheels. I fall about every time I go on rough off road trails. Not a car in sight. Ohhhh the danger. I have fallen on well built bike paths... hit a bunch of small, dark jewelry beads... they were like ball bearings. Any cyclist on the road has to maintain 360 degree situational awareness... what's happening in front of you, at the next intersection, at the left oncoming lane, the parked car next to you, and in front of you... any any approaching traffic behind you, in your lane AND the lane next to that lane.
HOWEVER... ride on a sidepath, and all the action is in front of you... until you come to an intersection... as you approach, you look around. Of course if there is a driveway every 100 feet, well you may as well be on the road. But if you have a mile or more of sidepath... that's a mile of not staring at a mirror. Even a 1/4 mile of not watching for overtaking traffic is relaxing.
I have done plenty of long trips on long isolated country roads (of course no sidepath, and often little shoulder) and the indication of approaching traffic was being able to hear those tires from a long way back... but between those rare vehicle approaches... there were wonderful long gaps of stress free cycling. Cycling that is like heaven. 
You just glide along care free... seriously "Just Riding Along." 
I get small similar JRA "shots" when riding on good paths and some local, available sidepaths. JRA. (sorry, city folks.)
You just glide along care free... seriously "Just Riding Along." I get small similar JRA "shots" when riding on good paths and some local, available sidepaths. JRA. (sorry, city folks.)
It is a totally different feeling. Sure, you get good, you stay alert, and you live.I have been on country rides before. Yes, It is less traffic-populated. But the situational awareness cannot be any less. Because the risk of animals being in the road, goes up.
) But you gotta get to the country to have such a ride.
07-30-19, 09:25 AM
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I think if you and your bike are on the sidewalk together with other people on the sidewalk with you, you should be walking the bike, not riding it. If you're moving slowly enough not to disrupt walkers, then walk. If you're moving fast enough to be a nuisance and a danger to pedestrians, you shouldn't be on the sidewalk. Simple.
However, when I've been out on tour, I've occasionally ridden on sidewalks for short distances so as not to be killed, and always in urban sprawl areas where you don't usually see pedestrians or cyclists, and only for a few blocks until I come to a turn-off/bypass. (If there are pedestrians, I walk the bike)
However, when I've been out on tour, I've occasionally ridden on sidewalks for short distances so as not to be killed, and always in urban sprawl areas where you don't usually see pedestrians or cyclists, and only for a few blocks until I come to a turn-off/bypass. (If there are pedestrians, I walk the bike)
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