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Headpost 09-25-19 10:21 PM

Saw this Tuesday morning riding to work.
 
Near the entrance to the bike lane on the Brooklyn side of the Manhattan Bridge.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...465ee767d2.jpg

nomadmax 09-26-19 03:48 AM

There's irony for you ^^.

horatio 09-26-19 03:59 AM

True.

bakerjw 09-26-19 09:13 AM

Looks like it got burnt at some point.

Milton Keynes 09-26-19 09:31 AM

Oh no, someone killed a ghost bike.

mr_bill 09-26-19 10:01 AM

Streetview of the memorial site.

-mr. bill

rydabent 09-26-19 10:24 AM

Trying to steal a ghost bike with no crank. Must have the IQ of a rutabaga.

Headpost 09-26-19 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by mr_bill (Post 21139217)

Oh man, still showing it with the flowers looking fresh in the wheels. Now I feel even sadder.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...51f3f365cd.jpg

rumrunn6 09-27-19 09:43 AM

bad omen, be wary there, huh?

Milton Keynes 09-27-19 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by bakerjw (Post 21139119)
Looks like it got burnt at some point.

Did someone cut the sign post with a blowtorch?

livedarklions 09-27-19 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 21139265)
Trying to steal a ghost bike with no crank. Must have the IQ of a rutabaga.

I doubt seriously that anyone intended to steal it, or it would have been gone. Looks like someone didn't want that bike and sign there and cut it with a torch. A lot of people object to the practice of permanent ghost bikes.

FiftySix 09-28-19 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 21140912)
I doubt seriously that anyone intended to steal it, or it would have been gone. Looks like someone didn't want that bike and sign there and cut it with a torch. A lot of people object to the practice of permanent ghost bikes.

I've heard that about auto fatality roadside memorials as well.

Daniel4 09-28-19 11:05 AM

Why are there people opposed to roadside memorials? Are they afraid that too many memorials will make the street ugly?

KraneXL 09-28-19 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Milton Keynes (Post 21140897)
Did someone cut the sign post with a blowtorch?

Someone ran into it. Not sure about the oil. Maybe punctured the oil tank?

Originally Posted by Daniel4 (Post 21141925)
Why are there people opposed to roadside memorials? Are they afraid that too many memorials will make the street ugly?

In fact, they do. That's why most municipalities ban them. However, states (on state roads) may allow them with a request. From what I've read, it varies by state and locality.

Daniel4 09-28-19 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by KraneXL (Post 21142030)
...

In fact, they do. That's why most municipalities ban them. However, states (on state roads) may allow them with a request. From what I've read, it varies by state and locality.

I can imagine the city council debate. One person will see all the memorials and say something about road safety. And the other councillor will see all the memorials and say they're ruining the looks of the city.

berner 09-28-19 04:20 PM

I would urge everyone to read up on sociopathy. Most of those afflicted with this condition enjoy getting a rise out of everyone just because they can. Once you read up on the pathology, senseless acts become understandable. For example, how could a normal person run down another human, pedestrian or cyclist, and then just drive off. For most of us, such a blatant lack of empathy would be unthinkable but to the sociopath this is SOP. There are numerous you tube videos on this condition but but a 10 minute video does not cover the subject well. Best is a book with some case histories such as "The Sociopath Next Door" by a Harvard psychologist, Martha Stout.

FiftySix 09-28-19 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Daniel4 (Post 21141925)
Why are there people opposed to roadside memorials? Are they afraid that too many memorials will make the street ugly?

It doesn't look to have Canada in this, but check out the section for the UK and especially the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_memorial

mr_bill 09-28-19 05:34 PM

Contrary to the wiki article, Massachusetts does not ban memorials.

-mr. bill

SactoDoug 09-28-19 08:00 PM

I think that is rust, not burn marks. It looks pretty clear to me that the sign post was struck. The concrete at the base would not be broken if it were cut. The yellow diamonds appear to have paint smears on them.

This just goes to show that no matter how highly visible you are, you can still get hit when the driver is not looking, paying attention or awake.

FiftySix 09-29-19 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by SactoDoug (Post 21142444)
I think that is rust, not burn marks. It looks pretty clear to me that the sign post was struck. The concrete at the base would not be broken if it were cut. The yellow diamonds appear to have paint smears on them.

I was thinking the dark marks on the concrete and tires are mold from lack of enough sunlight from the shade created by the bike. Agree the sign and bike look like they were struck by something, the left chainstay looks broken.

FiftySix 09-29-19 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by mr_bill (Post 21142298)
Contrary to the wiki article, Massachusetts does not ban memorials.

-mr. bill

If only I was a Wiki editor, I'd fix that right up. :)

bobwysiwyg 09-29-19 08:21 AM

I'm sure I'll get some flak for this, well intentioned I'm sure, but I feel they become roadside distractions and I don't think we need more distractions.

Lemond1985 09-29-19 08:39 AM

I just thought of a perfect way to make use of bikes with stuck stems and seatposts. :D

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5f4b6ac98b.jpg

Daniel4 09-29-19 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg (Post 21142823)
I'm sure I'll get some flak for this, well intentioned I'm sure, but I feel they become roadside distractions and I don't think we need more distractions.

I read that was one of the reasons too.

But isn't that the point of the memorial? Or should another sign be installed in its place, like a yellow yield sign.

dedhed 09-29-19 09:49 AM

Vehicle hit. You can see the tire tracks on the top of the rear rim.
Road signs are designed to fail to prevent injury


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