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Old 07-27-20, 08:35 PM
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Bike Thief gets owned

No real violence ...just a tackle.

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Old 07-27-20, 11:30 PM
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wise choice to ram the thief with a BMX bike.

I would have gone bananas in that situation, grab the thieve's bike, bend the frame, and smash it to pieces.
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Old 07-28-20, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
wise choice to ram the thief with a BMX bike.

I would have gone bananas in that situation, grab the thieve's bike, bend the frame, and smash it to pieces.
The bike the thief was riding could have been someone else's bike too.
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Old 07-28-20, 04:23 AM
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Looks staged to me. That would have to be one hell of a microphone that manages to pick up her voice clearly from about a block away and almost no ambient sound other than traffic rumble.I

Stunt guys' demo reel.
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Old 07-28-20, 04:25 AM
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Clearly fake stunt guys' demo reel. Sound is wayyyyyyy too good, picking her voice up clearly from a block away without directionality.
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Old 07-28-20, 04:37 AM
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The bike the thief was riding could have been someone else's bike too.
Then I'll just grab the bike and put it in lost and found!
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Old 07-28-20, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Looks staged to me. That would have to be one hell of a microphone that manages to pick up her voice clearly from about a block away and almost no ambient sound other than traffic rumble.I

Stunt guys' demo reel.
Maybe. I'm thinking a bike thief would be on foot. less obvious.
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Old 07-28-20, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
Maybe. I'm thinking a bike thief would be on foot. less obvious.

Also, the camera position is implausible. No one would go through the trouble of installing and maintaining a roof camera with that quality audio and have it pointed so it doesn't show any of the property it's supposedly securing. By amazing coincidence, all of the action occurs in precisely that frame.
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Old 07-28-20, 07:08 AM
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Could be a real theft. The sound is overdubbed, especially the sound of the bike crash...... it's not real.
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Old 07-28-20, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
Could be a real theft. The sound is overdubbed, especially the sound of the bike crash...... it's not real.

I've watched a lot of security cam video in my job--it never looks like that, with all of the action nicely within the frame, even where the shoe lands.

That's obviously a staged stunt--he just happens to stop and fiddle around with stuff right in front of the camera that doesn't appear to be pointed at anything worth securing?

Seriously, if they overdubbed the sound, that tells you it's a production.

Please don't be so gullible. It's a nice piece of stuntwork, and a lousy piece of acting.
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Old 07-28-20, 11:37 AM
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Sure, I'll get my bike back if given the opportunity, but not by crashing into it with another one of my bikes!
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Old 07-30-20, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
I've watched a lot of security cam video in my job--it never looks like that, with all of the action nicely within the frame, even where the shoe lands.

That's obviously a staged stunt--he just happens to stop and fiddle around with stuff right in front of the camera that doesn't appear to be pointed at anything worth securing?

Seriously, if they overdubbed the sound, that tells you it's a production.

Please don't be so gullible. It's a nice piece of stuntwork, and a lousy piece of acting.
A lot of home videos on Fail Factory, Top Ten Videos and Funniest Home Videos turned in by amateurs has the sound dubbed. That doesn't mean the picture part is staged, it just means the audio part has Foley work to enhance it so it plays better.
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
A lot of home videos on Fail Factory, Top Ten Videos and Funniest Home Videos turned in by amateurs has the sound dubbed. That doesn't mean the picture part is staged, it just means the audio part has Foley work to enhance it so it plays better.
Oh, c'mon. Give it up, it's fake. Faking dialogue is just one of many reasons it's obvious.

I get that you want to believe, but quit ignoring the obvious.
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Old 07-30-20, 10:32 AM
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OK Richard, whatever you say.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Looks staged to me. That would have to be one hell of a microphone that manages to pick up her voice clearly from about a block away and almost no ambient sound other than traffic rumble.I

Stunt guys' demo reel.
I am inclined to agree.
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Old 07-31-20, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
OK Richard, whatever you say.

Fine, so if it's a real incident, the guy doing the tackling is an idiot, not for stopping the guy, but for doing it in a way that's really likely to break his own neck.

Obviously trained stunt people are obvious. They're very good at that part.

In case you didn't catch it, the "thief" positioned himself so he could land on the grass.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
I've watched a lot of security cam video in my job--it never looks like that, with all of the action nicely within the frame, even where the shoe lands.

That's obviously a staged stunt--he just happens to stop and fiddle around with stuff right in front of the camera that doesn't appear to be pointed at anything worth securing?

Seriously, if they overdubbed the sound, that tells you it's a production.

Please don't be so gullible. It's a nice piece of stuntwork, and a lousy piece of acting.
I thought it was pretty good acting. Maybe not scripted all that well. Both walking back to the bikes and the part right after that looked a little weak.
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Old 08-04-20, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
I thought it was pretty good acting. Maybe not scripted all that well. Both walking back to the bikes and the part right after that looked a little weak.
Tackling guy had a rather stilted cadence as if he was trying to remember lines, but he wasn't awful. The "thief" was just trying too hard to look pathetic, and didn't really pull off being stunned by a surprise hit at all. For some reason they have a little coda at the end where the tackle is slowed down. That makes it obvious he shifted his stance a little bit right before supposedly being blindsided
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Tackling guy had a rather stilted cadence as if he was trying to remember lines, but he wasn't awful. The "thief" was just trying too hard to look pathetic, and didn't really pull off being stunned by a surprise hit at all. For some reason they have a little coda at the end where the tackle is slowed down. That makes it obvious he shifted his stance a little bit right before supposedly being blindsided
Granted, but IMO they sold it pretty well after getting up. The girlfriend screaming at him at the end, I could see it going down that way as well. I wonder if they produced it as a stunt demo, a portfolio for one of them.
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Granted, but IMO they sold it pretty well after getting up. The girlfriend screaming at him at the end, I could see it going down that way as well. I wonder if they produced it as a stunt demo, a portfolio for one of them.

Might also be a film school class project. It's actually a neat bit of staging, everybody hits their marks perfectly. Oddly, that part's too good to be plausible as a security video, but it makes it pretty entertaining.
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For some reason they have a little coda at the end where the tackle is slowed down. That makes it obvious he shifted his stance a little bit right before supposedly being blindsided
The final cut is also a different camera angle, and a different camera.

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The final cut is also a different camera angle, and a different camera.

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That is one really secured curbside!
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It's pretty good...!!!.. Actually if it's fake It's Really good
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It's pretty good...!!!.. Actually if it's fake It's Really good
IF???

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