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Old 07-29-20, 09:04 PM
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Drivers making reckless passes

Not only posing a danger to me but also to themselves and others on the road.

It seems some drivers can't get to terms that some riders are fast (I'm training to increase my sustained power output). And most of the time I'm traveling at the same speed as cars in relatively heavy traffic. Therefore, a car passing me would have to get faster than everyone else. A bit reckless in heavy traffic with barely much room to change lane.

There has been a few cases where drivers tried to pass me, almost missing their exit (turning widely and braking harshly into the exit, narrowly missing the kerbs) and I still end up catching up to them in the exit.

They could have simply stayed behind me and exiting gently, only half a second later and without their GF nagging or beating them up or something.

As a driver, I keep behind a cyclist when nearing my exit, instead of passing and turning widely into the exit. It just looks terrible
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Old 07-30-20, 08:33 AM
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Yeah, I see this all the time around here.

It's funny how drivers will stay behind a tractor going 15 mph for MILES, and just pile up, without even trying to pass.

Those same drivers will bomb by me going 30 mph (5 over the speed limit) because I'm a bike, even when I take the lane.

Hell, there's a hill I regularly ride on my way home from work. Speed limit is 40 mph, I'm usually doing about 48-50 mph, for a good 2 miles, and I've had a few drivers almost crash when they try to pass me. I don't think they realized how fast I, and subsequently they, were going but just saw 'bicycle' and their brain triggered the overtake reflex. It's kinda funny, if it weren't so dangerous.
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It's because most cyclists ride too far right, often hugging the edge. This promotes the "always pass a cyclist asap" mentality because it regularly encourages immediate passing with little consideration. Over and over. So even when presented with a cyclist traveling fast in the lane, the "must pass immediately" mindset takes over. But as long as you are keeping close tabs on them and oncoming traffic (not possible without a proper mirror) and keeping some space to your right, you are unlikely to be hurt.
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Old 07-30-20, 03:30 PM
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A lot of drivers have no idea as to how fast a bicycle can travel. Those drivers are used to bicyclists who just dawdle along at pace not all t hat much faster than a slow jog. When they pass, or left hook, a fast bicyclist those drivers are astounded at the speed of the bicycle.

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Old 07-30-20, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Notso_fastLane View Post
Yeah, I see this all the time around here.

It's funny how drivers will stay behind a tractor going 15 mph for MILES, and just pile up, without even trying to pass.

Those same drivers will bomb by me going 30 mph (5 over the speed limit) because I'm a bike, even when I take the lane.

Hell, there's a hill I regularly ride on my way home from work. Speed limit is 40 mph, I'm usually doing about 48-50 mph, for a good 2 miles, and I've had a few drivers almost crash when they try to pass me. I don't think they realized how fast I, and subsequently they, were going but just saw 'bicycle' and their brain triggered the overtake reflex. It's kinda funny, if it weren't so dangerous.
Lol, it's always to dangerous to pass anyone at a hill, especially if the road is twisty and if you're passing someone that is going really fast!

Dad taught me to drive defensively. It's good training. They don't teach this anymore don't they??
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Old 07-30-20, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
Dad taught me to drive defensively. It's good training. They don't teach this anymore don't they??
Not everyone heeds that kind of advice, especially in So Cal. One local road construction worker commented that he's done working on roads in So Cal, especially when one motorist's car knocked a large wrench out of the construction worker's back pocket, while the construction worker was doing quick repair work on a large piece of machinery.
On this So Cal freeway, maintaining traffic flow is king, so construction workers had to work right next to traffic doing 70 plus in a 55 mph construction zone with no barriers,and with the highway patrol sitting at the construction site pretty much acting as window dressing, according to many construction workers.
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Old 07-31-20, 01:06 AM
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My cycling mileage has quadrupled due to covid-19; the roads (UK) were very quiet in the early days of the travel restrictions, now much busier. It's very clear that most drivers of multi-track vehicles (cars/vans/trucks/buses) are incompetent, some are dangerously incompetent and some are deliberately dangerous. "Close pass" is my biggest concern, most of my mileage is on quiet single lane roads i.e. generally insufficient width for two cars to pass each other. An SUV driver told me yesterday that I should ride in the gutter so that he could pass.

I'm too old to risk physical confrontation with other road users, perhaps best avoided even when young in years. Looks like cameras are going to be the only option, at least some UK police forces appear to have some interest in dealing with close passes.

Prior to this year, most of my single-track mileage was by motorbike, so being overtaken was/is not generally a problem.
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Old 07-31-20, 12:34 PM
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You, sir, have my utmost respect. As bad as things are in the U.S. right now, from everything I've read about the Philippines, I wouldn't set foot in the country on a bet, much less cycle there.
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Old 07-31-20, 01:25 PM
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Thanks, but UK not Philippines! My error, profile location now updated.
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Old 08-07-20, 10:00 AM
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Then there are some drivers that are just plain dorks that like to buzz close to you to try to scare you. They seem to think that is fun. Just like the diesel drivers that like to "roll coal" when passing you.
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Old 08-07-20, 11:26 AM
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I have to remind myself that half of all drivers are below average. So what should I expect?
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Old 08-07-20, 12:17 PM
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Lots of examples of bad driving are uploaded everyday to the cycliq site. Some of them I look at and they really don't seem bad at all, but plenty are just scary and shows how atrocious so many drivers are.
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Old 08-07-20, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Then there are some drivers that are just plain dorks that like to buzz close to you to try to scare you. They seem to think that is fun. Just like the diesel drivers that like to "roll coal" when passing you.
I hate that. I've had it done twice and breathing in that smog ruins the rest of the ride. Once was on purpose as the driver slowed to get next to me and the other was just a piece of junk smokey old truck.
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Old 08-10-20, 12:31 PM
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The UK Highway code includes an image to instruct drivers of multi-track vehicles how to overtake cyclists safely, It would appear that I can't post the image until I achieve 10 posts on the forum.

If you cycle then I can recommend motorcycling; swiftly overtaking the cagers is bliss.

Edit: UK Highway code re: leave space when overtaking a bicycle


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Old 08-10-20, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Notso_fastLane View Post
It's funny how drivers will stay behind a tractor going 15 mph for MILES, and just pile up, without even trying to pass.

Those same drivers will bomb by me going 30 mph (5 over the speed limit) because I'm a bike, even when I take the lane.
Funny. Had this happen to me today. Riding down one of the generally less busy surface roads that has a bike path and a parking lane alone the curb, so plenty of room on most of the road. But, it has a traffic circle about every 1/2 mile. That's actually one of the things I like about this road because I almost never have to stop, and rarely even have to slow down, for the traffic circles. The speed limit varies from 30 -35 mph.

I take the lane about 30-50 yards before the traffic circles to keep cars from right hooking me and from trying to squeeze by where it narrows. This car almost catches up to me about the time I get to the circle, and I had been watching this tractor up ahead hoping it got through the circle before I caught it. The car guns his engine really unnecessarily as he passes me, only to catch up the tractor that was only about 100 yards ahead at this point.

Said car then slows to 15 mph and gets in line behind the tractor.

I bomb by the line of cars at about 23 mph (slight downhill, cruising was about 20) and continue on, with a little wave to the driver in the red car.

Good times.
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