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US Sec. of Transportation Buttigieg
The new US Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg addresses the National Bike Summit tomorrow.
“We think of trains, planes, and automobiles, but what about bikes, scooters, wheelchairs for that matter?” Buttigieg said during a recent interview with Axios. “Roads aren’t only for vehicles. We’ve got to make sure that pedestrians and individuals and bicyclists and businesses can all coexist on the same roadway.”
Hopefully, by that time someone will tell him bicycles ARE vehicles.
Oh! And...Alvey Adee, call your office!
“We think of trains, planes, and automobiles, but what about bikes, scooters, wheelchairs for that matter?” Buttigieg said during a recent interview with Axios. “Roads aren’t only for vehicles. We’ve got to make sure that pedestrians and individuals and bicyclists and businesses can all coexist on the same roadway.”
Hopefully, by that time someone will tell him bicycles ARE vehicles.
Oh! And...Alvey Adee, call your office!

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The new US Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg addresses the National Bike Summit tomorrow.
“We think of trains, planes, and automobiles, but what about bikes, scooters, wheelchairs for that matter?” Buttigieg said during a recent interview with Axios. “Roads aren’t only for vehicles. We’ve got to make sure that pedestrians and individuals and bicyclists and businesses can all coexist on the same roadway.”
Hopefully, by that time someone will tell him bicycles ARE vehicles.
“We think of trains, planes, and automobiles, but what about bikes, scooters, wheelchairs for that matter?” Buttigieg said during a recent interview with Axios. “Roads aren’t only for vehicles. We’ve got to make sure that pedestrians and individuals and bicyclists and businesses can all coexist on the same roadway.”
Hopefully, by that time someone will tell him bicycles ARE vehicles.
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The Sec. of Transportation actually riding a bicycle in traffic and agreeing to speak at a bicycle conference? Promising.
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On the one hand I think this may be good for cyclists.
On the other hand I think of what Ronald Reagan pointed out as the most terrifying phrase there is..."I'm from the government, I'm here to help."
How long before well-meaning advocacy falls victim to bureaucratic ineptitude or malfeasance and legislates the fun and practicality out of cycling.
Car sales down? Lobby for draconian cycling statutes under the guise of "safety" and make cycling a less attractive alternative.
On the other hand I think of what Ronald Reagan pointed out as the most terrifying phrase there is..."I'm from the government, I'm here to help."
How long before well-meaning advocacy falls victim to bureaucratic ineptitude or malfeasance and legislates the fun and practicality out of cycling.
Car sales down? Lobby for draconian cycling statutes under the guise of "safety" and make cycling a less attractive alternative.
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On the one hand I think this may be good for cyclists.
On the other hand I think of what Ronald Reagan pointed out as the most terrifying phrase there is..."I'm from the government, I'm here to help."
How long before well-meaning advocacy falls victim to bureaucratic ineptitude or malfeasance and legislates the fun and practicality out of cycling.
Car sales down? Lobby for draconian cycling statutes under the guise of "safety" and make cycling a less attractive alternative.
On the other hand I think of what Ronald Reagan pointed out as the most terrifying phrase there is..."I'm from the government, I'm here to help."
How long before well-meaning advocacy falls victim to bureaucratic ineptitude or malfeasance and legislates the fun and practicality out of cycling.
Car sales down? Lobby for draconian cycling statutes under the guise of "safety" and make cycling a less attractive alternative.
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I will just reiterate my point that politicians and political parties seek out movements and groups whose growth and momentum they can harness and then divert for their own purposes which are often counter to the original aim of the smaller groups.
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That's true! I will remember that the next time some one offers up the Reagan quote.
I will just reiterate my point that politicians and political parties seek out movements and groups whose growth and momentum they can harness and then divert for their own purposes which are often counter to the original aim of the smaller groups.
I will just reiterate my point that politicians and political parties seek out movements and groups whose growth and momentum they can harness and then divert for their own purposes which are often counter to the original aim of the smaller groups.
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When I think of cycling infrastructure, I think primarily of city and state roadways. It'll be interesting to see how much money we can print to improve it at the federal level.
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I'm very happy with all the changes in roadways here in Jax, Fl. Luckily we don't waste our money on separated bike lanes or MUPs. Give me the simple bike lanes and I'm happy, especially the ones over major waterways.
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Remember, though, that 60-70% of U.S. highway work is done with federal funds. Those state and local projects that aren't pork-barrel funded by the feds (and there's more than meets the eye!) are made possible by state money that's available because of the huge influx of federal money to the state.
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Remember, though, that 60-70% of U.S. highway work is done with federal funds. Those state and local projects that aren't pork-barrel funded by the feds (and there's more than meets the eye!) are made possible by state money that's available because of the huge influx of federal money to the state.
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How much more, on average, would it cost to add, say, a 4' shoulder on each side of a road when it is built?
I said "average" because we have roads, here in Vermont that have little or no shoulder before a steep wall of rock.
Relevant to the picture in the OP: Wouldn't it be safer to have that satchel on the rear rack?
I said "average" because we have roads, here in Vermont that have little or no shoulder before a steep wall of rock.
Relevant to the picture in the OP: Wouldn't it be safer to have that satchel on the rear rack?
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p.s. DB Call a Bike are one of the rare bikeshare bikes with a rear rack.
Pete Buttigieg is US Secretary of Transportation, so he rides a Capital Bikeshare bike in Washington DC. Andreas Scheuer is the Federal Minister of Transport and Digital Infrastructure, but he chooses to ride his own bike with a rear rack in Berlin.
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Remember, though, that 60-70% of U.S. highway work is done with federal funds. Those state and local projects that aren't pork-barrel funded by the feds (and there's more than meets the eye!) are made possible by state money that's available because of the huge influx of federal money to the state.
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Remember, though, that 60-70% of U.S. highway work is done with federal funds. Those state and local projects that aren't pork-barrel funded by the feds (and there's more than meets the eye!) are made possible by state money that's available because of the huge influx of federal money to the state.
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Despite all your squawking it is good news that John Kerry (another bike rider) is in the current administration. He’s very tall and has been riding for a long time. Fully recovered now as they say.
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Just a friendly reminder, the topic is fine, let’s just keep this free of partisan politics.

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I've got to agree with what Secretary Pete said about it. Make sure that we can all coexist on the roadway, that's the bottom line.
And with a push to address our infrastructure, finally, it's a perfect time to advance the interests of cyclists.
And with a push to address our infrastructure, finally, it's a perfect time to advance the interests of cyclists.
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There are lots of sidewalks that are not wheelchair accessible. Hell, when I was using a knee-scooter and there were times I had to “take the lane,” because sidewalk. (Or trash day, and most days are trash day somewhere.)
And yes, people in cars have killed people using wheelchairs.
I’m sure there’s an “advocacy” sub-forum on a wheelchairforums somewhere where some people will blame the person using a wheelchair. (And I’m guessing those people are very “vocal.”)
-mr. bill
And yes, people in cars have killed people using wheelchairs.
I’m sure there’s an “advocacy” sub-forum on a wheelchairforums somewhere where some people will blame the person using a wheelchair. (And I’m guessing those people are very “vocal.”)
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The new US Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg addresses the National Bike Summit tomorrow.
“We think of trains, planes, and automobiles, but what about bikes, scooters, wheelchairs for that matter?” Buttigieg said during a recent interview with Axios. “Roads aren’t only for vehicles. We’ve got to make sure that pedestrians and individuals and bicyclists and businesses can all coexist on the same roadway.”
Hopefully, by that time someone will tell him bicycles ARE vehicles.
Oh! And...Alvey Adee, call your office!

“We think of trains, planes, and automobiles, but what about bikes, scooters, wheelchairs for that matter?” Buttigieg said during a recent interview with Axios. “Roads aren’t only for vehicles. We’ve got to make sure that pedestrians and individuals and bicyclists and businesses can all coexist on the same roadway.”
Hopefully, by that time someone will tell him bicycles ARE vehicles.
Oh! And...Alvey Adee, call your office!

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