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Don't be these guys (two abreast in traffic)

Old 04-29-22, 09:42 AM
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The situation that is so dumb is saying a cyclist is impeding traffic when there are two lanes.
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Originally Posted by polyneux
I don't understand the philosophy of running the red lights though (I don't buy "because they do it I can do it.) I know its a slight divergence from topic but its come up a few times. I'm with the last poster in that I ride cooperatively with traffic not that I or they have some entitlement to the road that trumps the other. Stopping at red lights has lead to some of the most positive experiences with motorists I've had on a bike. "Nice bike" "hot out aint it" "want to hang on?" etc.

I bike often on a road that has lots of full-kit cyclists on it and I sometimes find myself annoyed when I, on a bike, stopped at a red light in a lane, get buzzed by a CYCLIST (or 10) who barely brakes and runs the red light. And in large groups you know the middle->back riders aren't 100% attending and are trusting the front so god forbid someone is taking their green light quickly and misses and runs into a whole pack of cyclists in the middle of an intersection on a red?
I'm not going to defend running a red light without carefully checking to make sure there's no cross traffic, but I find that going before the green is often the safest option. If I know there's a line of cars behind me, I want them passing me in the middle of the block rather than at the intersection where I'm vulnerable to a right hook. The head start of going on the red facilitates that. I'd rather they resent my "cheat" rather than inadvertently hit me.

In a growing number of states, it's legal for the cyclist to go on red as long as they come to a full stop first (Idaho Stop).

I also ride through a number of 3-way intersections where I'm FRAP on the closed side of the intersection. Unless there's a pedestrian, I will ride right through the red light. As far as I'm concerned, I'm only technically in an intersection at that point, and if I was walking in the position I'm in, no one would expect me to stop. I'm not in a lane where a car is going to be.
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