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Old 10-27-22, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Give me even one LOGICAL reason why people NEED to use illegal drugs!!!!!!
I know a fair number of people who became addicted to drugs their doctors prescribed for real and serious pain. Those people switched to illegal drugs. By your lights that justifies killing them.You justify your obnoxious statements, I am not going to explain addiction to you. News flash--addiction is real and illogical.
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Old 10-27-22, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Just so you know, I have made it to 84 years old WITHOUT ever using or missing the use of illegal drugs. And-------------for 84 years old I am in outstanding health, and ride my bike every other day weather permitting.
Bully for you. Would you like a cookie?
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Give me even one LOGICAL reason why people NEED to use illegal drugs!!!!!!
The rationale for deciding legal vs illegal includes various institutions' profit motives, religious ideologies, racism, and social pressure. So the question boils down to is there a logical reason why people need to use <any> drugs. Need is a strong but nebulous concept, but there's a plenty of empirical evidence from human history of people using drugs to get through life.

OTOH, people lived before aspirin, so I suppose you could argue no drugs are really needed. I mean, we all die eventually, right? So do we really need even life-saving drugs?
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Give me even one LOGICAL reason why people NEED to use illegal drugs!!!!!!
You don't NEED to do much of anything. You don't NEED to go to church, but a lot of people do.

Life is short and one might as well fill it with varied and interesting experiences. LSD is a very interesting experience. The day that Albert Hofmann first used LSD is commonly known as Bicycle Day. We live in a wonderful world and we should appreciate what it has to offer.
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Old 10-28-22, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Lets be brutal. Cyclist using drugs is a win win situation. When a cyclist using drugs dies in an accident because of drug use, it improves the gene pool, because their attitude of using drugs wont be passed on to a new generation. Then the second win is the fact that cyclist are in excellent shape and make good organ donors.
I don't think you understand whom the article was written about, not to mention the usual physical condition of chronic users.
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Old 10-28-22, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Just so you know, I have made it to 84 years old WITHOUT ever using or missing the use of illegal drugs. And-------------for 84 years old I am in outstanding health, and ride my bike every other day weather permitting.
FWIW Willie Nelson is 89 and Keith Richards is 78
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Old 10-28-22, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Give me even one LOGICAL reason why people NEED to use illegal drugs!!!!!!
Drugs make it easier to deal with cruel judgmental old people.

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Presumably more money for them to do more so-called "research."
If the research (it's actual research, not "so-called" research, btw) had been supported with a grant or other external funding, it would've been acknowledged in the paper; I may have missed it, but saw no such acknowledgment.
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Old 10-28-22, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
FWIW Willie Nelson is 89 and Keith Richards is 78
hmmm. If I could be someone else ... say, I could be Rydabent, or I could be Keith Richards... hmmmm ... gee, I just can't decide...
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Old 10-28-22, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by blacknbluebikes View Post
No one needs cake either, but I'll have some more, please.
Cake is not illegal!!!!!
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Old 10-28-22, 09:21 AM
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FWIW Willie Nelson is 89 and Keith Richards is 78
And they both look like they are 30 years older than me. Why dont you fix up a bike race for the 3 of us and see who wins.
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Old 10-28-22, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
Drugs make it easier to deal with cruel judgmental old people.



If the research (it's actual research, not "so-called" research, btw) had been supported with a grant or other external funding, it would've been acknowledged in the paper; I may have missed it, but saw no such acknowledgment.
Golly gee-----------------------do real and logical judgement hurt your widdle feeling?
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Old 10-28-22, 09:29 AM
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There is no logical reason to use illegal drugs. They make drug cartels rich, people are murdered over drugs, people die of drug over doses, and illegal drugs ruin lives in general. In a way anyone that uses illegal drugs are an accessory to the deaths of people that are murdered over drugs. So you you really feel comfortable with the fact that people are being killed to get your illegal drugs to you********************Again you are an idiot to get involved with them.
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Old 10-28-22, 09:31 AM
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Now you're evading. You referred to "NEED" ... No one needs whisky, but I love a good single malt. No one needs art, but I love making photographs. No one needs tourism, but I love travelling to places. And if all your personal boundaries are set by the government, well, that's your choice. Don't tread on me.
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Old 10-28-22, 09:40 AM
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Drug addicts are not ruled by logical. I knew someone who was murdered buying illegal drugs. His whole life was ruined by a school teacher who sexually abused and molested him for years. In some ways, his escape to drugs was a need and was logical. What is not logical? That teacher abuse hundreds of kids and never spent time in jail. I know many of the victims who needed illegal drugs just to survive. 4 are dead.
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Old 10-28-22, 10:14 AM
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If they hadn't made them illegal back in the sixties or there about, we probably wouldn't have had what you describe here...

They make drug cartels rich, people are murdered over drugs, people die of drug over doses, and illegal drugs ruin lives in general. In a way anyone that uses illegal drugs are an accessory to the deaths of people that are murdered over drugs. So you you really feel comfortable with the fact that people are being killed to get your illegal drugs to you
Alcoholic drinks use to be illegal here too for a short time. However when they realized that all the stuff you said in that quote was beginning to happen, they sensibly made alcoholic beverages legal again.

We've been fighting a drug war since the sixties and we haven't made a dent in it because making them illegal made them have to be sold by the bad guys. And it made throwing the basically innocent user in jail the defacto punishment with no rehab to keep them from using drugs.

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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
FWIW Willie Nelson is 89 and Keith Richards is 78
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And they both look like they are 30 years older than me.
At least they don't ride trikes.
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Old 10-28-22, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
FWIW Willie Nelson is 89 and Keith Richards is 78
Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
And they both look like they are 30 years older than me.
Yes, but I hear they're fun to be around, have interesting things to say, and aren't constantly insisting the guitar they play is superior.
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
There is no logical reason to use illegal drugs. They make drug cartels rich, people are murdered over drugs, people die of drug over doses, and illegal drugs ruin lives in general. In a way anyone that uses illegal drugs are an accessory to the deaths of people that are murdered over drugs. So you you really feel comfortable with the fact that people are being killed to get your illegal drugs to you********************Again you are an idiot to get involved with them.

You do realize that a lot of the people who died from overdoses actually became addicted to legal drugs, right?

People who abuse drugs chronically are hurting themselves, and the drug prohibition has more to do with the murders than any individual user's habits.

Punishing users doesn't work to alleviate much of anything, and yes, I think we should continue to seek more effective ways of getting people past their addictions.
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Golly gee-----------------------do real and logical judgement hurt your widdle feeling?

You wouldn't know a "real and logical judgement" if it hit you in the face. You don't know what logic is and you can't even spell judgment.
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And they both look like they are 30 years older than me. Why dont you fix up a bike race for the 3 of us and see who wins.

Next Thursday, 3 p.m. at the Omaha city hall. You better show up or you're a big coward.
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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
FWIW Willie Nelson is 89 and Keith Richards is 78
Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
And they both look like they are 30 years older than me. Why dont you fix up a bike race for the 3 of us and see who wins.
If they're both such idiots, how have they managed to become gazillionaires while accomplishing more than you could ever hope to achieve in ten lifetimes?


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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
And they both look like they are 30 years older than me. Why dont you fix up a bike race for the 3 of us and see who wins.

​​​​​​https://www.madhousemagazine.com/keith-richards-wins-tour-de-france/

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I know a fair number of people who became addicted to drugs their doctors prescribed for real and serious pain. Those people switched to illegal drugs. By your lights that justifies killing them.You justify your obnoxious statements, I am not going to explain addiction to you. News flash--addiction is real and illogical.
Addictions can be cured.
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Bully for you. Would you like a cookie?
Sure I love cookies, especially oatmeal raisin. Want to send me some?
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Addictions can be cured.

So can ignorance, but I don't expect you to try to treat yours. You have no idea what you're talking about or what anyone else is actually saying. Instead, you just want to spout off about how superior you are to everyone else.

You have made absolutely no points in this discussion other than to call.people idiots who would make the world better by dying. That was reprehensible, and you aren't going to get past that unless you admit you were wrong to say something that vile.
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