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Old 10-23-22, 05:10 AM
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Hate towards cyclists

Anyone see this story?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tampa-man-showed-no-remorse-allegedly-killing-clearwater-bicyclist-tire-iron-police-say

I often get honked at if i am on road with 40mph speed limit if there is no shoulder and i have to for safety take the road for 25 to 50 yards.

I try to prevent annoying drivers by waiting my palm,but ocassionally i get a driver yell ass**** ...get off the road

I ask waive thumbs up as thank you fir their comments
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Old 10-23-22, 05:18 AM
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Florida man is as Florida man does.

Not really cyclist related so much as random sociopath.

Meh.
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Old 10-23-22, 05:23 AM
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I cannot remember the last time someone yelled at me while riding my bike here. All the old pickup truck drivers are so nice to me, no problems really. They give me the lane and wave as they pass.

Florida? Happens all the time when I ride down there. I am prepared when I ride there.
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I live in Jacksonville Fl, supposedly one of the least cyclist-friendly cities in a state that's also suppose to be unfriendly toward cyclists. I get the typical stuff we all get as cyclists, such as, "get off the road", "get on the sidewalk", horns blown... However, it's not that much, at least compared to other places I've lived. Actually it's very, very little, so little I can't recall the last time I got yelled at or had a horn blown at me.

I think a lot of it has to do with how the cyclist rides. I'm very predictable in my riding and I give signals for turning or when I have to take the lane and I stop at lights and stop signs. Granted I practice the Idaho Stop method, but I come to a full stop if I arrive at a stop sign at the same time or even just slightly before a motorist. I think a lot of cyclists misunderstand this method as the cyclist being able to just roll thru (not blow thru), regardless -- this is wrong, you must stop at times.

And then you just got idiots out there, which has less to do with hatred towards cyclists and more to do with just hate. Just look at all the motorist-on-motorist road rage nowadays.


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Old 10-23-22, 07:57 AM
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I admit there have been no incidents at all for me on my bike since the issue with the Jeep driver, that was a lifetime ago (and in another state) and for the most part I ride the canals, not the roads if at all possible, I am also very courteous to all, cyclists, walkers & drivers, And you are absolutely right about how bad driving is nowadays, my work involves a lot of windshield time, I have seen way more road rage in the last few years then ever before.

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My family and I were discussing incidents where a driver blew the horn at them as a pedestrian. One incident was crossing the store's parking lot to enter and the other was crossing in protected lanes with signs. We agreed that to blow a horn in this setting says more about the driver's mental state. Folks are distracted and anxious about so many things.

Another observation is how drivers speed in parking lots.

I realize these accounts are not bike related, but perhaps we need to consider the problem is not with bicyclists. However, I do see some bicyclists and motorcyclists riding in a way that is a danger to themselves, others, and deserve the criticism they receive..
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Old 10-23-22, 11:40 AM
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In many states, there are two circumstances in which you can legally use your horn:

1. To avoid an accident.

2. On a blind turn (which is in essence a special case of #1).

I don't think any states allow it to be used to convey a message such as "get the hell out of my way".
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Old 10-23-22, 03:27 PM
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Most of the people that are a'holes to you while on the bike are probably a'holes to other drivers as well. No matter what you do, if you do it long enough you will find the people that think you are a bother to them.
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Originally Posted by Alleytom
Had someone in a jeep actually chase me several years ago after he got behind me and honked several times, there was no bike lane. I flipped him off, he chased me through a parking lot, luckily I got away. After that and ever since I ride armed.
I have a similar story. A taxi driver. Chased me around a busy mall parking lot, which was hilarious. I taunted the Hell out of him there.

Ever since I keep my fingers to myself.
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
In many states, there are two circumstances in which you can legally use your horn:

1. To avoid an accident.

2. On a blind turn (which is in essence a special case of #1).

I don't think any states allow it to be used to convey a message such as "get the hell out of my way".
3. Alert a distracted driver that the light is now green, & to proceed forward to no loner impede traffic.
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hey wife and I were on the tandem on a bike path coming to a street with a light that is triggered by bikes or a walk button. we got there 20 seconds sooner then a guy on the opposite side. he started screaming I should push the button cussing me out. the light trued about 2 seconds after he pushed the button because I had triggered it. but it never stopped him from screaming at us.
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Old 10-26-22, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Troul
3. Alert a distracted driver that the light is now green, & to proceed forward to no loner impede traffic.
That's the same as #1 to me. If they don't friggen go, I am going to help them.
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Originally Posted by Troul
3. Alert a distracted driver that the light is now green, & to proceed forward to no loner impede traffic.
I once yelled at a driver to "Put down your phone" because I didn't have bike a horn at that time.

The average response time is about 0.3 seconds plus the time it takes for the vehicle to respond. So we expect about 1 second. But I know of drivers who honk as soon as the light turns green.

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Originally Posted by baobao

I often get honked at if i am on road with 40mph speed limit if there is no shoulder and i have to for safety take the road for 25 to 50 yards.

I try to prevent annoying drivers by waiting my palm,but ocassionally i get a driver yell ass**** ...get off the road

I ask waive thumbs up as thank you fir their comments
I can only guess what what any motorist who is stopped in traffic thinks of a bicyclist who yells at them "put down the phone" or similar advice, or uses some sort of noise making device to alert them that he or she hasn't haven't moved out quick enough at a changed traffic light to satisfy the impatient bicyclist. Probably doesn't promote love towards the bicyclist.
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Originally Posted by Daniel4
I once yelled at a driver to "Put down your phone" because I didn't have bike a horn at that time.

The average response time is about 0.3 seconds plus the time it takes for the vehicle to respond. So we expect about 1 second. But I know of drivers who honk as soon as the light turns green.
When the intersection is known for being busy, short timed signal, & during rush hour, I would consider a polite "HEY!" or a soft "HONK!" is about as best as the distracted driver could get.... Most default to a more aggressive means of alerting them...
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Originally Posted by Daniel4
I once yelled at a driver to "Put down your phone" because I didn't have bike a horn at that time.

The average response time is about 0.3 seconds plus the time it takes for the vehicle to respond. So we expect about 1 second. But I know of drivers who honk as soon as the light turns green.
I tend to take a moment after the light turns green to look both ways before proceeding. Someone running a red light will take you out in a heartbeat if you are too quick into the intersection.
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I tend to take a moment after the light turns green to look both ways before proceeding. Someone running a red light will take you out in a heartbeat if you are too quick into the intersection.
If the intersection is a blind area, i can understand the delay.... not when all directions are clear in view.
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Originally Posted by Troul
If the intersection is a blind area, i can understand the delay.... not when all directions are clear in view.
This was kind of in response to post #14 above which suggested honking for anything over a 1 second delay. It doesn't take a limited view intersection to be at risk. A car traveling at 60 mph covers 88 feet in one second. Red light runners are often "on the gas" and well above speed limits when doing their deed. I guess its my motorcyclist survival skills in play here, head on a swivel etc.
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here in the Dirty Den (Meriden CT), motorists pretty much want cyclists, joggers and pedestrians dead.

I got yelled at one night while jogging in reflectorized clothing and sneaks and a 200 lumen headlamp by an old lady in a gold buick "just want you to know, we can't see you!", I replied nicely "but I have a light and reflectors!", she replied "**** you! can't see you!" After a lifetime of b.s. from motorists, even that one shocked me. I nearly stopped running because of it.
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Originally Posted by Oldairhead
This was kind of in response to post #14 above which suggested honking for anything over a 1 second delay. It doesn't take a limited view intersection to be at risk. A car traveling at 60 mph covers 88 feet in one second. Red light runners are often "on the gas" and well above speed limits when doing their deed. I guess its my motorcyclist survival skills in play here, head on a swivel etc.
a red light runner could also come from behind & slam into the person waiting at the intersection. Sometimes, trying to avoid an accident results in other risks.
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In my community, one doesn't dare proceed when the light turns green as the intersection will still be full of speeding drivers.
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Or, just hatred that many are finding they've little to no control over their lives anymore.

These days, it's hard to imagine what's motivating and driving people to think murder is the "out" for their frustrations. Bad burrito, someone in front (read: "ahead") of them on the road, someone not regarding (read: "disrespecting") them, someone talking "back" to them, even giving a look that's disliked.

Of course, much of the west-central coastline of Florida is a bit messy, right now. Wouldn't surprise me a few mental cases are blowing gaskets for no good reason. This time, like as not, it just happened to be someone on a bicycle who was unfortunate enough to cross paths with these idiots. Momma should have worked harder at instilling a moral compass into these cretins.

"Modern" culture. Can't be explained.
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last time someone yelled at me, it was a guy in a beat up old 2 wheel drive pickup truck: "FU Yuppie!" at least it wasn't that mean
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Originally Posted by RB1-luvr
here in the Dirty Den (Meriden CT), motorists pretty much want cyclists, joggers and pedestrians dead.

I got yelled at one night while jogging in reflectorized clothing and sneaks and a 200 lumen headlamp by an old lady in a gold buick "just want you to know, we can't see you!", I replied nicely "but I have a light and reflectors!", she replied "**** you! can't see you!" After a lifetime of b.s. from motorists, even that one shocked me. I nearly stopped running because of it.
Funny you mention that. When I hiked the Appalachian Trail, one of the worst states WRT friendliness was Connecticut. I don't mean to say that all Connecticuters are bad people, but I was glad to get out of Connecticut.

What I really hated is that Connecticut bans all fires, all the time along the Appalachian Trail



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we were having a nice enough ride in the rain coming to this street. our bike will trigger the light almost every time so I don't push the button lines it des not. usually you can cross without it anyway but this guy on the other side started screaming at us for not pushing the button. even though it was our bike that triggered it or it would have taken longe. he continued to yell at us as we crossed. bad case of bike path rage I guess.

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