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Old 06-19-24, 10:25 AM
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Shocking hit and run in DFW

Wild video shows cyclists being knocked off bikes, run over by brazen hit-and-run driver

https://nypost.com/2024/06/19/us-news/cyclists-knocked-off-bikes-run-over-by-brazen-driver-video/
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Old 06-19-24, 11:49 AM
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Here's a YT video of that hit. I hope the catch that SOB



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FAKE. No dent in the white car? The grill is blacked out, cloth or what? Why did the Jeep brake?
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The driver was caught and arrested. We’ll see what happens.
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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
FAKE. No dent in the white car? The grill is blacked out, cloth or what? Why did the Jeep brake?
I'm speculating here, but I think the Jeep saw what was about to happen and the driver kind of freaked out. It's also possible that the driver of the Jeep is, at least in part, responsible for the driver of the white SUV being arrested.




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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
FAKE. No dent in the white car? The grill is blacked out, cloth or what? Why did the Jeep brake?
To distract from the unobscured license plate. Obviously. /s

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I'm speculating here, but I think the Jeep saw what was about to happen and the driver kind of freaked out. It's also possible that the driver of the Jeep is, at least in part, responsible for the driver of the white SUV being arrested
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I'm speculating here but you don't really have to address obviously absurd claims.
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Apparently he was drunk


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Not excusing the driver for his/her fault, but the bicycle riders could have gone through that section of roadway single file (two lanes, small shoulder area) or just avoided it all together.
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Jail forever.
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Old 06-19-24, 06:27 PM
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I watched the Video several times. If the driver hadn't slowed down at all the injuries would have been extreme. Because of the 1.5 Blood Alcohol level the driver didn't slow down soon enough to avoid hitting them. continuing on after stopping then running over one of the downed riders was malicious. drunk or not I find him guilty.
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Originally Posted by skidder
Not excusing the driver for his/her fault, but the bicycle riders could have gone through that section of roadway single file (two lanes, small shoulder area) or just avoided it all together.
It’s fairly common for drivers to pass too closely when riding close to the right. Taking the lane often encourages drivers to move into the other lane (giving more space). There are two lanes going in the same direction without much traffic.

The driver in this situation was a danger even if the cyclists where riding where you think they should have been. That is, they likely would have been run over riding single file. That is, these riders may have been f-ed regardless.

Anyway, there was no shoulder at all and the driver hit the right-most rider first after moving right (a bit).

And you end-up kinda excusing the allegedly-drunk driver anyway.

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Wow, sad... and driving over the second rider and bicycle.

I'm glad injuries were minimal, although the mental scars will be forever.
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Originally Posted by skidder
Not excusing the driver for his/her fault, but the bicycle riders could have gone through that section of roadway single file (two lanes, small shoulder area) or just avoided it all together.
This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on this forum. Yes, you are excusing a drunk driver from their inexcusable actions,
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Originally Posted by skidder
Not excusing the driver for his/her fault, but the bicycle riders could have gone through that section of roadway single file (two lanes, small shoulder area) or just avoided it all together.
What is the name of that road? What is the speed limit on that road? Where were the cyclists coming from, where were they going, and what was the best alternate route? If they had been in single file, he would have still hit one of them. They most common excuse for hitting cyclists is "I didn't see them." By riding two wide they increase their visibility.

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Old 06-20-24, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by skidder
Not excusing the driver for his/her fault, but the bicycle riders could have gone through that section of roadway single file (two lanes, small shoulder area) or just avoided it all together.
How would that have changed anything? The motorist was drunk and had terrible reaction time, but even if he was sober the lanes aren't that wide. Riding single file only invites motor vehicles to squeeze by with as little room as possible. Moreover, there was no shoulder, which means you didn't even bother to watch the video. DFW is known for having terrible cycling infrastructure, but the alternative isn't simply to stay home.
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Reports are the driver was an American Airlines AA cargo worker and was intoxicated. Along with the obvious criminal hit and run the other question that should be investigated is: - Why is an AA worker driving home from work intoxicated? Was he in a group of other workers also drinking? Keep in mind that driving around an international airport like DFW is dangerous with many people late for trips in addition to concerns with drunk drivers. AA needs to address this concern as it involves Safety and Quality of AA work / workers. American Airlines

As a DFW rider this will now always factor into my decision to ride near DFW airport which is midpoint on the Dallas to FW route and a popular ride area for many of the DFW riding groups
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Originally Posted by JW Fas
How would that have changed anything? The motorist was drunk and had terrible reaction time, but even if he was sober the lanes aren't that wide. Riding single file only invites motor vehicles to squeeze by with as little room as possible. Moreover, there was no shoulder, which means you didn't even bother to watch the video. DFW is known for having terrible cycling infrastructure, but the alternative isn't simply to stay home.
RE: DFW is known for having terrible cycling infrastructure
This is incorrect, DFW is a very good cycling city with many dedicated, thousand of miles, of MUPs and many of the streets have marked off "bike lanes".
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Road riding.

I believe in always leaving an escape route when sharing a road with vehicles.may it be a gravel shoulder etc., but then I rely on my ears maybe more than others but it's worked for 60+ years.never ever take for granite all drivers are friendly law abiders.ride on.
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Originally Posted by delbiker1
This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on this forum. Yes, you are excusing a drunk driver from their inexcusable actions,
Sorry but I didn't see any new reports that the driver had an excessive blood-alcohol level. With the width of the roadway and where the white 'fog stripe' is next to the curb, plus that it appears to be near an airport, I'm wondering if bicycles might be prohibited on that section of road. For reference, in California a bicycle rider can use any public roadway as long as you obey the rules of the road and if its not posted that riding a bicycle on it is not prohibited. Is still doesn't excuse bad behavior by the auto driver. And I forgot this is the A&S forum with its own particular bias.
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There is no excuse for that. Long site view and another lane to get around. F'n drunks.
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Originally Posted by delbiker1
This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on this forum. Yes, you are excusing a drunk driver from their inexcusable actions,
Yes, this is response is a bit harsh. I don't see anything that indicates the drunk driver should be excused. I am in the camp that, us cyclist, must do everything we can be get along with everyone else on the road, especially if we are the most vulnerable (at least as it compares to vehicles). Everyone knows that it is common for cyclists to feel entitled. It's just common sense, to me, to ride single file on a road like this. Personally, I only would ride 2 wide on rural roads where traffic is minimal. This, clearly is not.
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Would mirrors have made a little difference? Probably not, though the cyclists would have realized the imminent disaster.

If it were a truck--a truck driver--it's hard to imagine the consequences.
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Why would 2 cyclists ride single-file when following and enjoying the draft of a single car where no other facilities or traffic exist?

It seems to me the run-down cyclists unwittingly prevented a rear-end collision between the Subaru and the vehicle with the camera.

There is absolutely nothing the run-down cyclists did wrong here. They were where they needed to be, plainly visible, central to the offending drivers focus of vision, and doing the same speed and direction as other traffic in the flow.

There is no scenario by which the cyclist can be at fault. Creating a narrative by which their actions can be questioned is disingenuous at best, malicious at worst...Excusing the Subaru? I'm disappointed.
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Originally Posted by base2
Why would 2 cyclists ride single-file when following and enjoying the draft of a single car where no other facilities or traffic exist?
Not a car. The camera is clearly on a bicycle. The rider at the right wasn't in its draft.

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It seems to me the run-down cyclists unwittingly prevented a rear-end collision between the Subaru and the vehicle with the camera.
Given that the cyclists would be much, more likely severely injured or even killed than somebody in a rear-ended car, your concern is weirdly misplaced.

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