Hit by car, was I in the right?
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Hit by car, was I in the right?
first off, sorry for not capitilizing, i have use of 1 arm.
i was going down a road that i was about to turn off of. i looked behind, no car, and merged into another lane. this lane it the opposite traffic lane which had no cars. when i go to turn i hear a horn and screetch of tires behind me. that person was speeding, took the turn, taking me out in the process.
i bailed, and the bike took the brunt of the hit. i only have a cut arm. it was my poor raleigh I was riding, and the frame is bent. it was my best bicycle.
now my stupid self did not get license, name, or anything.
p.s. i am 14 years old
i was going down a road that i was about to turn off of. i looked behind, no car, and merged into another lane. this lane it the opposite traffic lane which had no cars. when i go to turn i hear a horn and screetch of tires behind me. that person was speeding, took the turn, taking me out in the process.
i bailed, and the bike took the brunt of the hit. i only have a cut arm. it was my poor raleigh I was riding, and the frame is bent. it was my best bicycle.
now my stupid self did not get license, name, or anything.
p.s. i am 14 years old
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I just remembered more so I will describe more.
He was speeding, my guess 45 in a 25, so I did not see him when I looked over my shoulder. He was in the left lane to pass me when I went to turn. He clipped my back wheel, sending me flying, and the bike spinning away.
p.s. I am a "advocate" to road laws. I was riding in the middle of the lane. I was in the right [correct] lane before I went over to turn.
I dont even know if I want to still ride on streets. I know everytime I ride, I will be in fear of being hit.
He was speeding, my guess 45 in a 25, so I did not see him when I looked over my shoulder. He was in the left lane to pass me when I went to turn. He clipped my back wheel, sending me flying, and the bike spinning away.
p.s. I am a "advocate" to road laws. I was riding in the middle of the lane. I was in the right [correct] lane before I went over to turn.
I dont even know if I want to still ride on streets. I know everytime I ride, I will be in fear of being hit.
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Originally Posted by roughrider504
first off, sorry for not capitilizing, i have use of 1 arm.
i was going down a road that i was about to turn off of. i looked behind, no car, and merged into another lane. this lane it the opposite traffic lane which had no cars. when i go to turn i hear a horn and screetch of tires behind me. that person was speeding, took the turn, taking me out in the process.
i bailed, and the bike took the brunt of the hit. i only have a cut arm. it was my poor raleigh I was riding, and the frame is bent. it was my best bicycle.
now my stupid self did not get license, name, or anything.
p.s. i am 14 years old
i was going down a road that i was about to turn off of. i looked behind, no car, and merged into another lane. this lane it the opposite traffic lane which had no cars. when i go to turn i hear a horn and screetch of tires behind me. that person was speeding, took the turn, taking me out in the process.
i bailed, and the bike took the brunt of the hit. i only have a cut arm. it was my poor raleigh I was riding, and the frame is bent. it was my best bicycle.
now my stupid self did not get license, name, or anything.
p.s. i am 14 years old
The good news is that if your Raleigh has a steel frame, you can straighten it (or have it straightened)... No go if it's aluminum, though.
I used a couple two by fours as long levers, and straightened the frame on my bike. Being it was a small town, I saw her the next day (and being that I was young and still slightly immature, I of course flipped her the bird!) she was PISSED!
I know it was at least 3 months before she got her truck fixed because I used to see her driving around town.
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I know I took half of his bumper clean off. A Green camaro, customised.
My raleigh is 20-30 steel, and I will pick up a used frame from Plan B in new orleans for now.
My raleigh is 20-30 steel, and I will pick up a used frame from Plan B in new orleans for now.
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You looked... did you signal, did you ensure that the road was clear before changing lanes? You were positioned in the proper lane to make the turn, so you did indeed do that right. If the motorist was speeding... they may have been driving beyond their sight lines. They may not have seen you until they rounded a corner or topped a hill (if either is the case) and then did not react in time.
At any rate, they hit you. You were in the proper lane for your pending turn. They did not respect your right of way. You should have their name and license... you were in an auto collision and every state in the US requires that all parties involved in an auto collision exchange this information.
At any rate, they hit you. You were in the proper lane for your pending turn. They did not respect your right of way. You should have their name and license... you were in an auto collision and every state in the US requires that all parties involved in an auto collision exchange this information.
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Originally Posted by roughrider504
I know I took half of his bumper clean off. A Green camaro, customised.
My raleigh is 20-30 steel, and I will pick up a used frame from Plan B in new orleans for now.
My raleigh is 20-30 steel, and I will pick up a used frame from Plan B in new orleans for now.
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The road is about a mile long, flat. I looked, I made very sure there was no car close, which I always do. I did not see the camaro.
When the horn first sounded, and the tires locked up, the car was still not close to me. That shows the speed it was going. It took me out when I was on the street I was turning onto.
The scary part is, I do now own a helmet now, and I could of been easily killed. Scares me.
When the horn first sounded, and the tires locked up, the car was still not close to me. That shows the speed it was going. It took me out when I was on the street I was turning onto.
The scary part is, I do now own a helmet now, and I could of been easily killed. Scares me.
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But I didnt signal, because I do not know the signals. Nobody taught me, and I couldnt find anything on the internet.
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Originally Posted by roughrider504
But I didnt signal, because I do not know the signals. Nobody taught me, and I couldnt find anything on the internet.
Left turn is the only signal I really use... and the only one that motorists ever really pay attention to (that I've noticed, anyway) ... to signal a left turn, extend your arm straight out to your left (almost like you're pointing the way you want to go....)
Right turn signal is an 'L' shape... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand up.
Slow/stop is the opposite... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand down.
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Here are the signals you need:
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On a side note... you didn't really do anything wrong, and likely would have gotten hit even if you HAD signalled... the guy was going to fast for conditions, and like you said, probably speeding by quite a bit. You'd probably have been hit even in a car.
The worst ones in my book are the idiots who deliberately try to run me off the road or scare me.... I'd like to... nevermind. *reminds himself he's supposed to set a good example*
Heal fast and get back out there!
The worst ones in my book are the idiots who deliberately try to run me off the road or scare me.... I'd like to... nevermind. *reminds himself he's supposed to set a good example*
Heal fast and get back out there!
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Thanks! for telling me the right way to signal. My siginal i use, is I stick my leg out the way I am going to turn. Now i will use the right ones, if I ride anylonger
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ALWAYS call the cops and file a police report! If driver left the scene of the accident, that's a hit and run. That's an automatic ticket/violation. Description of car/license could locate the driver before they end up at the local collission shop to get car fixed.
Lesson learned: Use proper hand signals (ask what they are from local riders/bike shop/police).
Wear a helmet. Use a rear view mirror (preferably mounted to your eye/sunglasses).
Been there, done that. Been hit several times in 30+ years of cycling. In each instance driver got the ticket and paidf or bike/injuries + pain and suffering.
Glad you survived OK . . . live and LEARN!
Lesson learned: Use proper hand signals (ask what they are from local riders/bike shop/police).
Wear a helmet. Use a rear view mirror (preferably mounted to your eye/sunglasses).
Been there, done that. Been hit several times in 30+ years of cycling. In each instance driver got the ticket and paidf or bike/injuries + pain and suffering.
Glad you survived OK . . . live and LEARN!
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Originally Posted by roughrider504
Thanks! for telling me the right way to signal. My siginal i use, is I stick my leg out the way I am going to turn. Now i will use the right ones, if I ride anylonger
Get out on one of your other bikes asap! You must do this to overcome the fear factor. One bad experience should not stop you from doing something you like.
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Originally Posted by bmclaughlin807
And only 14... these signals are probably demonstrated in your DMV handbook that you'll have to study when you get your Driver's license.
Left turn is the only signal I really use... and the only one that motorists ever really pay attention to (that I've noticed, anyway) ... to signal a left turn, extend your arm straight out to your left (almost like you're pointing the way you want to go....)
Right turn signal is an 'L' shape... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand up.
Slow/stop is the opposite... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand down.
Left turn is the only signal I really use... and the only one that motorists ever really pay attention to (that I've noticed, anyway) ... to signal a left turn, extend your arm straight out to your left (almost like you're pointing the way you want to go....)
Right turn signal is an 'L' shape... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand up.
Slow/stop is the opposite... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand down.
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Originally Posted by bmclaughlin807
And only 14... these signals are probably demonstrated in your DMV handbook that you'll have to study when you get your Driver's license.
Left turn is the only signal I really use... and the only one that motorists ever really pay attention to (that I've noticed, anyway) ... to signal a left turn, extend your arm straight out to your left (almost like you're pointing the way you want to go....)
Right turn signal is an 'L' shape... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand up.
Slow/stop is the opposite... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand down.
Left turn is the only signal I really use... and the only one that motorists ever really pay attention to (that I've noticed, anyway) ... to signal a left turn, extend your arm straight out to your left (almost like you're pointing the way you want to go....)
Right turn signal is an 'L' shape... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand up.
Slow/stop is the opposite... left arm to the side, bent at elbow, hand down.
To the OP, it doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me. I was rear-ended a couple of years ago too, and it took awhile before I was comfortable with traffic overtaking me again. I certainly didn't ride that same stretch of road (even though there's a bike path) for about a year and a half, even though it was the most direct route to work for me. Eventually, it does get better, just take it slow for awhile and stay safe - your confidence will come back.
And get yourself a helmet!
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Originally Posted by zonatandem
ALWAYS call the cops and file a police report! If driver left the scene of the accident, that's a hit and run. That's an automatic ticket/violation. Description of car/license could locate the driver before they end up at the local collission shop to get car fixed.
Lesson learned: Use proper hand signals (ask what they are from local riders/bike shop/police).
Wear a helmet. Use a rear view mirror (preferably mounted to your eye/sunglasses).
Been there, done that. Been hit several times in 30+ years of cycling. In each instance driver got the ticket and paidf or bike/injuries + pain and suffering.
Glad you survived OK . . . live and LEARN!
Lesson learned: Use proper hand signals (ask what they are from local riders/bike shop/police).
Wear a helmet. Use a rear view mirror (preferably mounted to your eye/sunglasses).
Been there, done that. Been hit several times in 30+ years of cycling. In each instance driver got the ticket and paidf or bike/injuries + pain and suffering.
Glad you survived OK . . . live and LEARN!
Never again, I never want this to happen again. I would not wish this on my worst enemy. Cycling is my favorite hobby, and is helping me get healthy. Now I have alot of work to build another bike for the commute next year. And now I have to pay for parts out of my pocket, not his.
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Originally Posted by roughrider504
Thanks! for telling me the right way to signal. My siginal i use, is I stick my leg out the way I am going to turn. Now i will use the right ones, if I ride anylonger
Sounds like your pretty much un injured. Id get a nice mirror and a new helmet for sure.
As for your bike long as the frame is not kinked where the bend is it repairable long as its steel. Just check for cracks in the welds (in the case of lugs flex around on the bike and check to make sure theres no seperation in the lugs and frame..) Once you get the frame strait check for any cracks where the bend was. If you see none your good to go. Just take it easy for a few rides ramping up how hard you ride over a period of a few rides and check to make sure the frame is taking the stress and the bend is not showing back up. IF it is still strait then your bike is fine though probablly in the need of a new paint job.
I dont know about your raleigh but my 73 gran prix seems to have been painted with red over gold. Its a pretty expensive painting meathod now adays but i guess back then it wasnt.
I would not scrap that bike esp if its a older raleigh they are damn nice clasic bikes with awesome lugs. Im rebuilding my 73 now infact ever so slowly.
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I'm having trouble understanding exactly what happened, have to make some assumptions, but don't want to comment if any of these assumptions are false. So, please confirm or correct the following assumptions.
- Before the turn, there were two lanes in your direction.
- You were in the right lane, preparing to turn left.
- The right lane goes straight or right at the intersection at which you want to turn.
- The left lane goes straight or left at the intersection at which you want to turn.
- There are no lanes dedicated for turning (a right turn only lane, or a left turn only lane) at this intersection.
- Initially, you were riding in the right lane.
- As you approached the intersection, you prepared to merge left so you could turn left onto the new street from the left lane.
- When you were about ______ feet from the intersection, you looked back to see if it was clear to merge left.
- Since you did not see any cars coming, you merged left.
- When you first merged into the left lane, you were almost in the intersection already. That is, you did not merge left when you were still 100 or more feet from the intersection, you waited until it was time to turn left, when you were closer to 10 or 20 feet to the intersection.
- After about ______ seconds after you looked back and saw no one, you first heard the screeching of tires and/or honking.
- When you first heard the screeching/honking, you were already entering the intersection to make your left turn, or were about to.
- After you heard the screeching/honking, you continued along your intended path, turning on to the new path.
- The Camaro that eventually hit you was also making the same left turn.
- You were hit during or after making the left turn onto the new street.
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It is a 1977 record single speed. I can see a bend at the rear dropout, almost where the braze is. Fork is bent. Rear wheel is out of true, paint is ruined. My winneman levers are scraped. But the bike made it 2 miles home. I am amazed I made it back the condition my mind was in. Cold sweat x10
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Originally Posted by roughrider504
It is a 1977 record single speed. I can see a bend at the rear dropout, almost where the braze is. Fork is bent. Rear wheel is out of true, paint is ruined. My winneman levers are scraped. But the bike made it 2 miles home. I am amazed I made it back the condition my mind was in. Cold sweat x10
Ok a bend near the drop out likly means not only was your rear wheel hit but probably in such a manner it yanked on your drop outs realy hard. Check the brace (weld) for the rear drop out and make sure you dont see a clean line of bare metal matching the shape of the frame tube. I had a bmx drop out ripped right out of the frame from a crash before. Regardless it should be repairable just will vary as to how hard it is to fix.
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'm having trouble understanding exactly what happened, have to make some assumptions, but don't want to comment if any of these assumptions are false. So, please confirm or correct the following assumptions.
* Before the turn, there were two lanes in your direction.
* You were in the right lane, preparing to turn left.
* The right lane goes straight or right at the intersection at which you want to turn.
* The left lane goes straight or left at the intersection at which you want to turn.
* There are no lanes dedicated for turning (a right turn only lane, or a left turn only lane) at this intersection.
* Initially, you were riding in the right lane.
* As you approached the intersection, you prepared to merge left so you could turn left onto the new street from the left lane.
* When you were about ______ feet from the intersection, you looked back to see if it was clear to merge left.
* Since you did not see any cars coming, you merged left.
* When you first merged into the left lane, you were almost in the intersection already. That is, you did not merge left when you were still 100 or more feet from the intersection, you waited until it was time to turn left, when you were closer to 10 or 20 feet to the intersection.
* After about ______ seconds after you looked back and saw no one, you first heard the screeching of tires and/or honking.
* When you first heard the screeching/honking, you were already entering the intersection to make your left turn, or were about to.
* After you heard the screeching/honking, you continued along your intended path, turning on to the new path.
* The Camaro that eventually hit you was also making the same left turn.
* You were hit during or after making the left turn onto the new street.
* Before the turn, there were two lanes in your direction.
* You were in the right lane, preparing to turn left.
* The right lane goes straight or right at the intersection at which you want to turn.
* The left lane goes straight or left at the intersection at which you want to turn.
* There are no lanes dedicated for turning (a right turn only lane, or a left turn only lane) at this intersection.
* Initially, you were riding in the right lane.
* As you approached the intersection, you prepared to merge left so you could turn left onto the new street from the left lane.
* When you were about ______ feet from the intersection, you looked back to see if it was clear to merge left.
* Since you did not see any cars coming, you merged left.
* When you first merged into the left lane, you were almost in the intersection already. That is, you did not merge left when you were still 100 or more feet from the intersection, you waited until it was time to turn left, when you were closer to 10 or 20 feet to the intersection.
* After about ______ seconds after you looked back and saw no one, you first heard the screeching of tires and/or honking.
* When you first heard the screeching/honking, you were already entering the intersection to make your left turn, or were about to.
* After you heard the screeching/honking, you continued along your intended path, turning on to the new path.
* The Camaro that eventually hit you was also making the same left turn.
* You were hit during or after making the left turn onto the new street.
*yes
*straight
*straight [oncoming lane with no traffic]
* no
* yes I was
* yes. [I moved more to the left but still staying in my lane]
* 10 feet. about.
* yes.
* I took a left hook onto the new street. a gentle curve you might say.
* when I was still in the street I heard honking and tires screetching.
* yes.
* pretty sure
* During. Thrown 15 feel onto the new street.
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Originally Posted by roughrider504
I know I took half of his bumper clean off. A Green camaro, customised.
My raleigh is 20-30 steel, and I will pick up a used frame from Plan B in new orleans for now.
My raleigh is 20-30 steel, and I will pick up a used frame from Plan B in new orleans for now.
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how does a car make a left turn without even looking? you would think that a car would atleast look to where he or she was turning? daydreaming while making a left?