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Old 10-06-08, 02:34 PM
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The forum can be distilled to 6 threads.

discuss which 6 threads.

here is my take

1) helmets

2) laws not followed - broken by cyclists and drivers

3) proposing new legislation

4) smart people who are stupid cyclists

5) why me ? whine

6) why them ? whine


and the only thing that changes is the year-month-day



(tongue in cheek though I shouldn't have to say it)

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Oh you forgot the whole Ipod/headphones thing, but if you want you could chuck it in with the helmets thread and rename it Saftey Nanny ranting

And then there's DonQuixote...
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Old 10-06-08, 03:32 PM
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And yet we all keep coming back.
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I'll play. Here's my "6 thread" synopsis:
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1. Everyone (but me) is an ignorant fool, an inept driver, and is deliberately trying to kill me.

2. Bikes are exactly the same as cars; except that I always have the right of way, don't carry insurance, can ride drunk, and you have to look out for me, or I'll say that you're deliberately trying to kill me.

3. Every bike/car incident is the car's fault.

4. The government/police bother me too much.

5. The government/police don't protect me enough.

6. And six, six, six for my sorrow.

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Old 10-06-08, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Treespeed
And yet we all keep coming back.
It's consistent with the "loop back" id of the OP.
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Originally Posted by tortoise
I'll play. Here's my "6 thread" synopsis:
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1. Everyone (but me) is an ignorant fool, an inept driver, and is deliberately trying to kill me.

2. Bikes are exactly the same as cars; except that I always have the right of way, don't carry insurance, can ride drunk, and you have to look out for me, or I'll say that you're deliberately trying to kill me.

3. Every bike/car incident is the car's fault.

4. The government/police bother me too much.

5. The government/police don't protect me enough.

6. And six, six, six for my sorrow.

And seven seven, n-no tommorrow,

Eight, eight I forgot what eight was for
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Originally Posted by Pig_Chaser

And then there's DonQuixote...
And the Jack-O's who take him seriously and/or respond to his loony ranting/polls.
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Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1
discuss which 6 threads.

here is my take

1) helmets

2) laws not followed - broken by cyclists and drivers

3) proposing new legislation

4) smart people who are stupid cyclists

5) why me ? whine

6) why them ? whine


and the only thing that changes is the year-month-day



(tongue in cheek though I shouldn't have to say it)

/asbestos underwear activated
7. Threads commenting/complaining about A&S.
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Old 10-06-08, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Allister
7. Threads commenting/complaining about A&S.
that makes 2 pwnages!
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You could distill all the forums, except maybe Foo, to a few threads. It doesn't indicate that this is a useless forum.

That doesn't mean I don't think this is funny
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-well, 'lane positioning' USED to be the only topic virtually every A&S thread was steered down..... 'railroaded' or 'browbeaten' is more accurate.

A&S is much more communicative and even handed now.
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Are there ever any posts concerning proactive advocacy or safety?
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Yelling at wrong way/sidewalk riders is pretty pro-active.
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Want a trophy?

There is a reason I troll this place, and it's because it's so easy.
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Originally Posted by Allister
Yelling at wrong way/sidewalk riders is pretty pro-active.
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Originally Posted by grayloon
Are there ever any posts concerning proactive advocacy or safety?
sure!

https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-safety/428493-i-m-columnist.html

I always re-acted to newspaper letters and stories that denigrated cycling, so much so that the editor of the paper called me up at home and asked me to write a regular column on cycling to advocate for their (safe) use and acceptance on our city streets.

That's moved me from re-active to pro-active, safe-cycling advocacy.

PS. I'm always looking for ideas to write about and have taken info from this site for my columns
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
And the Jack-O's who take him seriously and/or respond to his loony ranting/polls.
And those who offer only criticism of others' posts, without any useful, constructive comments - while curiously failing to start any threads of their own, lest they be flamed by yet another Jack-O.
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Originally Posted by closetbiker
sure!

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=428493

I always re-acted to newspaper letters and stories that denigrated cycling, so much so that the editor of the paper called me up at home and asked me to write a regular column on cycling to advocate for their (safe) use and acceptance on our city streets.

That's moved me from re-active to pro-active, safe-cycling advocacy.

PS. I'm always looking for ideas to write about and have taken info from this site for my columns
The extremely rare exception.
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7. "I shouldn't have to own a Kryptonite lock because I'm not a consumptive cager and the fat Walmart door greeter can suck it."
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Originally Posted by grayloon
The extremely rare exception.
so does that make me, exceptional?

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Originally Posted by seeker333
And those who offer only criticism of others' posts, without any useful, constructive comments - while curiously failing to start any threads of their own, lest they be flamed by yet another Jack-O.

Is there some sort of merit badge/special icon awarded for starting numerous threads, polls, and/or rants? Maybe a booby prize is awaiting for someone who believes "constructive" comments, remarkably, always match his own opinion, while all comments to the contrary are not "useful."
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Vehicular Cycling was a lightning rod until it was shunted off to its own sub-forum. Maybe we need a sub-forum for more of the common rant topics. Although helmets do show up as topics, I would say that the existence of the Helmets cramp my style sticky keeps that to a minimum.

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Originally Posted by Speedo
Vehicular Cycling was a lightning rod until it was shunted off to its own sub-forum. Maybe we need a sub-forum for more of the common rant topics. Although helmets do show up as topics, I would say that the existence of the Helmets cramp my style sticky keeps that to a minimum.
Same thing for the topics of cager/cager culture bashing; the posters of such stuff shunted off to Car-Free, along with their theories/guesswork about petroleum macro economics-bicycling interrelationship made for a quieter A&S.

Unfortunately this stuff keeps worming its way back into the A&S and Commuting list by the posts of a couple of glaze-eyed ideologues.
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Originally Posted by closetbiker
so does that make me, exceptional?
Maybe special, the short bus will pick you up this afternoon.
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Originally Posted by grayloon
Maybe special, the short bus will pick you up this afternoon.
Special?

You're not suggesting those who participate in pro-active cycling advocacy are developmentally challenged are you?
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