They're not cagers!
08-08-06, 11:44 PM
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i am in an MS Degree program for Psychiatric Rehabilitation (PSYR). one of the pillars of this care provider movement is practitioner wording for "patients, clients, consumers, customers" label. the correct name to refer to "consumers" makes it more personal; to identify the "schizo" instead as a "Person with schizophrenia" takes away some of the labeling and helps identify your relation as person to person.
to classify people deflates from their humanity (invites "pre-judgement").
there are people who drive their bikes (with the Law backing them), and there are others who unfortunately ride under their own make believe rules. there also are people who drive (car, truck, motorcycle) in harmony with others each following the Law. sometimes it seems that there are some people who have forgotten the Laws of the Road and have made up their own rules as well.
in my book, these are drivers in a cage (cagers) as are the "wrong way" bicyclist are the only true recipients for "get off the road!" remarks.
here in s nj, being with the law is the only way to go!
to classify people deflates from their humanity (invites "pre-judgement").
there are people who drive their bikes (with the Law backing them), and there are others who unfortunately ride under their own make believe rules. there also are people who drive (car, truck, motorcycle) in harmony with others each following the Law. sometimes it seems that there are some people who have forgotten the Laws of the Road and have made up their own rules as well.
in my book, these are drivers in a cage (cagers) as are the "wrong way" bicyclist are the only true recipients for "get off the road!" remarks.
here in s nj, being with the law is the only way to go!
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I hate those people in the grocery store that push their carts like they own the isle. They have no consideration for anyone else, especially when they are talking on their cell phones. What do I call them?
I agree with the OP. They are people who drive cars for whatever reason. Most of them are nice. Most of them are considerate. Some of them are idiots. It shouldn't be us vs. them. It should be us working together to share the road and accomplish the things we all set out to do.
I agree with the OP. They are people who drive cars for whatever reason. Most of them are nice. Most of them are considerate. Some of them are idiots. It shouldn't be us vs. them. It should be us working together to share the road and accomplish the things we all set out to do.
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This really should be a sub-forum in car free living.
I hate being called a cager, and if some jackass calls me a cager, I'll let him know about my feelings on the subject by showing how close the truck can get.
I hate being called a cager, and if some jackass calls me a cager, I'll let him know about my feelings on the subject by showing how close the truck can get.
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Originally Posted by San Rensho
I thought this post was about cagers, who are by definition car drivers. So while you may be very amused with your own wit in coming up with COB, I fail to see the relevance to this post.
This is a forum for cyclists, so you should expect people here to think that cycling is an all-around better way to travel than driving a car. Sometimes, we'll even poje fund at car drivers. If you can't deal with that, you're in the wrong place. Plus, most of us are cagers some of the time (come on, admit it).
And, as far as insults go, "cagers" is pretty darned mild. If it annoys you, your offense-meter is way, way, to sensitive.
08-09-06, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wethepeople
This really should be a sub-forum in car free living.
I hate being called a cager, and if some jackass calls me a cager, I'll let him know about my feelings on the subject by showing how close the truck can get.
I hate being called a cager, and if some jackass calls me a cager, I'll let him know about my feelings on the subject by showing how close the truck can get.
08-09-06, 05:58 AM
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What I want to know is who stole this term from the motorcycling community? We've been refering to stoopid people in cars, not the general car driving population, as 'cagers' since Hector was a pup.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Remind me to write a letter to the newspaper's sports page editor: "They're not cagers! They're people who play basketball!"
Surely you meant Wrestlers
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Originally Posted by San Rensho
I thought this post was about cagers, who are by definition car drivers. So while you may be very amused with your own wit in coming up with COB, I fail to see the relevance to this post.
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Originally Posted by wethepeople
This really should be a sub-forum in car free living.
I hate being called a cager, and if some jackass calls me a cager, I'll let him know about my feelings on the subject by showing how close the truck can get.
I hate being called a cager, and if some jackass calls me a cager, I'll let him know about my feelings on the subject by showing how close the truck can get.
08-09-06, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sbhikes
Well, while we're at it, I'm not a biker! A biker rides a big motorcycle and usually wears a leather or denim jacket (with the arms cut off of course), has a shaggy ponytail and a tiny helmet painted flat black.
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Originally Posted by SingingSabre
I also love the stereotype of the lesbians on motorcycles
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08-09-06, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacey
Surely you meant Wrestlers
Cager: A basketball player; derived from the days when a wire mesh barrier surrounded the court to protect the fans from the players and vice versa.
1929: It has become common practice to surround the court with a suspended wire basket or cage to keep the ball and players inbound - players often come off after a game with chain-link marks on their skin. Naismith's original rules stated that the first player to get to the out-of-bounds ball gained possession. This had led to mayhem and the first answer was the cage. In 1929 this is abandoned and replaced with the simple side-line throw, although basketball players will still be called "cagers" for many years.
(from https://www.btinternet.com/~jets/bbhist.html )
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Originally Posted by CyLowe97
No... seriously.... cager is a term for basketball players.
Cager: A basketball player; derived from the days when a wire mesh barrier surrounded the court to protect the fans from the players and vice versa.
Cager: A basketball player; derived from the days when a wire mesh barrier surrounded the court to protect the fans from the players and vice versa.
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08-09-06, 09:27 AM
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And, as far as insults go, "cagers" is pretty darned mild. If it annoys you, your offense-meter is way, way, to sensitive.
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Originally Posted by slowandsteady
I am not offended. Call people cagers all day long. I just wanted people to think about how overly simplistic their view of drivers is. Those that use the term cager are doing exactly what they hate about cagers. They are viewing vehicles as faceless nameless objects, just as poor inconsiderate drivers do of us cyclists. Just trying to point out the irony...
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Originally Posted by chipcom
Calling a cyclist a Cager on a Bike seems to have evoked some strong emotions though. I have to hire someone to read all the death threats!
08-09-06, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sbhikes
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08-09-06, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmuter
I'll do it for $5 + $1 for each bad word contained in the threat. For another $20, I'll find two guys with a pickup truck, some dogs and firearms and make sure the threats cease permanently.
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Originally Posted by TrevorInSoCal
I've often seen the term "BDC" (Braindead Cager) bandied about on various motorcycle forums and email lists.
08-09-06, 10:32 AM
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So, we no longer refer to people suffering from schizophrenia as schizophrenics?
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But this BF is like the most apologetic towards drivers, and most bashing towards their fellow cyclists than other two-wheeled vehicle operators out there trying to stay alive out there.
08-09-06, 10:37 AM
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BF is bike forums. You had it right.
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So, we no longer refer to people suffering from schizophrenia as schizophrenics?
To label someone a schizophrenic, implies that is WHO they are. It is not. It is just a chronic/terminal disease that requires treatment. Just as someone with lymphoma isn't a lymphonist, but a person with lymphoma.
When a disease takes over your life, we have a tendency to label that person as being that disease, such as diabetics, schizophrenics, manic depressives, and so on.